Ideal GPS for wingsuit

[whatever 0]

Hey

http://www.magellangps.com/en/products/product.asp?PRODID=105

anyone used this product for wingsuiting flying?
or anything else skydiving related?

(insert freefly joke here)

thanks

[bbarnhouse 0]

LouDiamond uses all kinds of different gadgets including gps.
You might want to field your questions to him.
BB

[kevin922 0]

Hey,

I am finalizing the details on a GPS company sponsoring me for doing wingsuit research with their products, once it's all done and i have hardware in hand i'll post what my setup is.. it's super cool stuff..

[ManBird 0]

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http://www.magellangps.com/en/products/product.asp?PRODID=105

Nice. That's exactly the kind of GPS I need. Must get.

"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯"

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[LouDiamond 1]

Oddly enough that model isn't available in North America for some reason. Guess there are no hang gliders here.

Send me a PM if you want the long story but in short I am working on something right now that will make a lot of skydivers who already have GPSs very happy.

"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required"
Some people dream about flying, I live my dream
SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING

[bbarnhouse 0]

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I am working on something right now that will make a lot of skydivers who already have GPSs very happy.

Yep and I am anxious to learn the results, fascinating and very informative.

[LouDiamond 1]

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Yep and I am anxious to learn the results, fascinating and very informative.

Actually, you probably know some of the people I am working with as they are jumping in your neck of the woods. So if you see people running around with stuff straped to them. Or see peopel land and then stare at a little box you know the deal. Don't bother trying to ask them what they are doing, they are sworn to secrecy

"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required"
Some people dream about flying, I live my dream
SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING

[bbarnhouse 0]

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Actually, you probably know some of the people I am working with as they are jumping in your neck of the woods.

Bwahhhh geez and I just wonder how THAT happened

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Don't bother trying to ask them what they are doing, they are sworn to secrecy

No worries it isnt a secret if I already know..then again they can take me out with just one finger...Yeah I don't know nuthin' about nuthin'.

[droquette 0]

This post is pretty old but i'm searching for a GPS unit to track my WS flights.. I know that new models have been coming out and nobody has really posted any info on it.. i saw somebody with what i think is a Garmin GPS Forerunner Wristband Trainer 201
but im not sure...
anybody have some info that would be helpfull on which are the best new models?


Blue skies,
dan

HISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733

[Gadget 0]

We used the garmin fortrex 201 in Stupino.If there was a good signal it worked great.You can download the data to Paralog get all the info and even get a track in google earth

Hans

If people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes???
My logbook

[stratman05 0]

I got the forerunner 201 by mistake. I haven't had great results with it yet (one reason or another).

I think there are some settings I need to switch between when I jump and run.

[phoenixlpr 0]

I use Garmin Geko301. Its working nice except from Otter, because that plane is a Faraday cage .
I have no reception problems from C207/C208.

[Costyn 1]

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I got the forerunner 201 by mistake. I haven't had great results with it yet (one reason or another).

I think there are some settings I need to switch between when I jump and run.

Some tips:
- Make sure you have the 1 second intervals set for recording.
- Turn it on before you board the plane, have it get a fix. The longer it is without a satellite fix, the longer it will take to get a new fix once you leave the plane.
- During the flight, try to not sit beneath the wings; this is definitely the worst place. Sit near the pilot (ideal in a caravan for example) or in the rear of the plane near the door. In many cases it will get a fix (not to high accuracy) but it won't take as long to start recording data once you leave the plane.
- Turn track recording on at 11K (if you're leaving at 12K). This makes it easier to interpret the data later, if you don't have all the data from climbing to altitude.
- If the GPS doesn't have a fix as you are about to exit, if at all possible, wait for 10 or 15 seconds by the door, facing the GPS outwards and let it get a fix before you exit.

Good luck!

Costyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News

[vidiot 0]

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I think there are some settings I need to switch between when I jump and run.

Some information on setting up your unit can be found here.

My Logbook

[stratman05 0]

I think that is for the foretrex.

I can't find anything for the forerunner like that. Where do I go to change the intervals for recording?

I'm thinking if I change my speeds in the custom profile, that will help more.

[Costyn 1]

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I think that is for the foretrex.

I can't find anything for the forerunner like that. Where do I go to change the intervals for recording?

I'm thinking if I change my speeds in the custom profile, that will help more.

Can you change the resolution anywhere? I think the foretrex has different resolutions for track recording, such as 'low', 'medium' etc. There's is also 'custom' where you can specify the number of seconds you want between trackpoints.

Oh and where are you mounting the GPS? The most ideal location is on top of your helmet, but this is not really practical. A good location I found is just on your hand. I've mounted it to my altimeter strap, and it gets good coverage there.

Cheers,

Costyn.

Costyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News

[stratman05 0]

I mount it on my wrist.

I found a setting that has pace(running) vs speed(biking). I think my problem is that I switched it to pace for running. I have used it before with semi-decent results on biking (guessing).

I also went in and raised all the paces for sprint/run/jog to 50 mph to 99 mph.

I am using these for tracking jumps right now too. I'm in a cessna. I usually have the person next to the pilot hold it till they call door, then throw it on and get next to the pilot after they exit.

thanks for the info though...I think it might be that setting.

[Costyn 1]

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I mount it on my wrist.

I found a setting that has pace(running) vs speed(biking). I think my problem is that I switched it to pace for running. I have used it before with semi-decent results on biking (guessing).

I also went in and raised all the paces for sprint/run/jog to 50 mph to 99 mph.

I am using these for tracking jumps right now too. I'm in a cessna. I usually have the person next to the pilot hold it till they call door, then throw it on and get next to the pilot after they exit.

thanks for the info though...I think it might be that setting.

Actually, it might take shorter interval tracklogs at slower speeds, to make sure it doesn't miss turns at slow speeds. If you think about it, you want longer intervals at higher speeds because the heading is not likely to change very abrubtly. So, for the highest resolution, you should use perhaps the setting for walking?

Anyways, this is all very speculative. I suggest you go out for a walk with the device. In the first 5 minutes, you set it to one setting, and in the second 5 minutes you set it to another setting, then go back home and see how far apart the trackpoints are in the tracklog. If you use a program that produces GPX files, you can open them with a text editor and look at the differences in time stamps.

Cheers,

Costyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News

[droquette 0]

Thanks for all the great info guys.. ill let you know how it works....
Im going with the Fortex 201.. got it on ebay for $140 with shipping...
dan

HISPA 72 ----- "Muff Brother" 3733

[nathaniel 0]

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The most ideal location is on top of your helmet,

I wonder, how well would a gps work through carbon fiber? I'm guessing not too well...

My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

[phoenixlpr 0]

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The most ideal location is on top of your helmet, but this is not really practical.

I've sewn a small elastic pocket on the soft part of the back of my Z1.

Phone in the GPS packet of Z1

[Waldschrat 0]

Is your neck really the right place for those items?

[phoenixlpr 0]

Thats not in the way of any movement.

I can tilt my head freely.
It's on the back side of my skull
My neck would be broken before my GPS could be between my head and my shoulder.

[stratman05 0]

I'm gonna give up on this. Made two jumps today and the in flight data seemed accurate. Not sure what to do about getting it set for Paralog though. When I do an import from it, it's not picking up the correct data, but when I use an online tool and get the KMZ for it, it looks much better.

[stratman05 0]

Ok...Klaus at Paralog emailed me within minutes of posting it and helped me out (big thanks).

As suspected, the Foreurnner 201 is crap for this. There weren't any issues with Paralog (or anything else).

The Forerunner 201 doesn't let you set recording intervals, so the data is inconsistant. STAY AWAY From that model. Get the fortrex series.

Thanks to anyone who provided input, and Klaus again.