How do you fly when you pull?

[TomAiello 26]

I'm curious what most people are doing at pull time.
By "flaring" I mean flying into a more head-up position, usually done to reduce opening shock.
You might want to have a look at this gear inspection report after you answer the poll.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
SnakeRiverBASE.com

[gus 1]

I click my heels for wave-off, bring my legs tight together and my knees down, thow out the pc and collapse my arm wings by bringing my wrists and elbows together infront of me.

Disclaimer: I only do it like this becasue that's how the guy that trained me up does it. I'd like to experiment with deploying in full flight but I haven't yet because I've only got 15 wingsuit jumps and it's one variable I'm happy to leave alone for the moment. The one downside to deploying like this vs full flight is that I think it makes you more prone to turning during deployment and giving yourself line twists (although I've only done that once).

Gus

OutpatientsOnline.com

[Bowie 0]

I made 114 ws jumps last year and i always keep flying after i pull. When i feel the canopy i put my hands on my upper chest strap it works fine for me. I haven`t had any problems but i also pull in full speed.

Bo Wienberg

vimeo.com/bowienberg

[diablopilot 2]

From full flight I:

1) Drop my knees to slow the forward speed
2) Collapse the arm wings to come in and initiate pull.
3) Toss P/C at full arm extension. (After I can feel the container is open.)
4) Re-collapse arm wings.
5) As soon as I feel the bag leave the container, I start to sit up.
6) Steer the deployment.

This has worked for me.... 150 Classic II flights and 2 SkyFlyer flights, never had more than 1/2 a line twist.

That reminds me, I need to get my new Skyflyer ordered.

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

[basehoundsam 0]

I did about 100 jumps on my classic 2 collapsing everything at pull time. I made another 60 or so in full flight. (all with a spectre 120). I then switched to a Samurai 120. I made about 40 jumps in full flight with the Samurai. I then started flying a skyflyer with my Spectre. I made a few jumps, thought I was stable enough at pull time, and switched to my Samurai. Deploying in full flight I had the gnarliest line twist, with a disintigrating canopy I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing.I chopped it quick-like.

After talking to Kim at Birdman, she informed me of a few simple truths.

1. The burble behind a Skyflier is about the size of a Mack truck. Much larger than a GTI or Classic.
2. The longer bridle,open corners, and packing pin to grommet significantly reduce spinning mals.
3. Relaxing thru opening seems to make things a hell of lot friendlier.

Since then I've been flying my Samurais with my Skyflier sans problemo.....

I also use an open corner Morpheus Gargoyle that has given me nothing but love. Love I tell you. The open corner thing really makes sense.I am anxiously awaiting Vertigos Merlin that is the next step in wingsuit BASE containers.

Just my .02

Jay Epstein Ramirez
www.adrenalineexploits.com

[cobaltdan 0]

skyflyer: in the exact same position i use for best flight (shoulders rolled, palms out, head slightly down, legs straight and toes dug in: flys fast but with best lift, takes practice not to waffle). simultaneously close all wings, and then re open while dumping pilot. when done right your flight path sould not change at all until the pilot/canopy pull on you. in this way your pilot always goes into clean air.

i have seen and experienced problems with the arch and deploy technique and do not recommend it.

if your canopy is not conducive to opening in a high speed track, get one that is (i.e. a cobalt) or practice slowing your track before deploying. i.e.slam on the brakes by bending your nees for a second, then transition back to your perfect track position, wait a couple seconds to make sure you are stable and have a good foward drive, and then dump as above. you will still have a good foward speed but about 20-30% slower than if you did not brake. the above has worked religiously for me with a 95 cobalt and a 22" pilot.

sincerely,

dan<><>

Daniel Preston <><>
atairaerodynamics.com (sport)
atairaerospace.com (military)

[ManBird 0]

I'm flying, click the heels, fly for another ½ second, arms go back together, pull, keep flying until the canopy makes me stop. I fly a Wings with open corners + 9' bridle, and pack grommet-pin.

A weird opening characteristic I've found since I started opening in full flight is this sort of "second surge". Basically, the canopy opens about 30° - 45° behind and above me. When I swing back, the canopy dives a bit. When the canopy levels out, it whips me back under, and has caused quite a bit of neck pain for the last while. I finally found that if I ball up right after I swing back, no neck or legs will be whipped around, and it's a really fun ride.

I'm also flying a Sabre, so... there's that. I like the openings to be fast on WS jumps. There's just something about looking up at the canopy and seeing the ground behind you. It also reduces heading-hunting, and therefore, line twists.

*Added*

I've found that I can reach up and grab the rear risers near my neck while still zipped up. It doesn't give you a lot of leverage, but I've kept half to single twists from becoming any more by pulling the rear risers as hard as I can.

"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯"

Click

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

I fly wide open then wave off, collapse all my wings just long enough to forcefully throw my nine-foot bridle equipped 24 inch PC, go back into full flight for about two seconds until I feel the lines stretch and a bit of tension. At that point I put my knees together and drop them, thus sitting me up. At the same time, I pull both hands in around my handles and look straight at them (the handles). When I feel the canopy open I look up to see if it's going to go straight; if it does, I unzip my arms immediately and take control. If not, I am already at my handles and can more effectively deal with it.

Chuck

[VectorBoy 0]

I bring both my upper and lower wings in and wait a nano sec before I briskly deploy. I do this pause because when my wings come in there is a change in my body's angle of pitch and I don't want to introduce a yawing movement at the same time. Then collaps my wings and arch my body in a pseudo base exit pose. The arch is reduced to just knees bent as the harness takes up my weight. Legs still closed so that my leg wings don't become a sail and start a twisting movement untill my slider is down.
I like this better than deploying in a full track to minimize the trap door effect.
With the exception of one helicopter jump pulling at three, I usually pull at four.
I'm on a classic and can't say this would work on a GTI or Skyflyer. Glen

[Faber 0]

Hi Tom
If i understand Per F. rigtht,then i had the same problem on a reguleare skydive,whit no wingsuit.And have seen one more from skydive(also not a wingjump).
Afther mine and the one i have seen,we(the skydivers that were there at the time),confurmed that this problem can be made by some things.
1.slobby pack of the PC,so the bridel will catch the hacky in deployment
2.Bad luck that it actualy catch it in the deployment

The only way to prevent this should be using a PVC handel,so the bridel cant cathc the hacky and collaps it.
PM me if you need more,i think i can find some video and/or some pics of the problem

Stay safe
Stefan Faber