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Question for some of your birdy-base people... what was your progression to doing base birdman? Did you start out doing base first if so how many jumps, etc.



You definitly want to have mastered a still air exit. Think about this you go off wildly unstable and just as you get control and start the wing suit flying you are heading toward the cliff and boom... I actually have seen video of this almost happening. But the said person had 800 BASE jumps and that is likely why it didn't...

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Also, if you're doing a birdman base from 4K feet, do you need a base rig?



Considering you want the most predictable gear possible why wouldn't you take a base rig? Do you want to snivel to impact with a sail slider considering the lower airspeeds of a birdman deployment?

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Question for some of your birdy-base people... what was your progression to doing base birdman? Did you start out doing base first if so how many jumps, etc.



You definitly want to have mastered a still air exit. Think about this you go off wildly unstable and just as you get control and start the wing suit flying you are heading toward the cliff and boom... I actually have seen video of this almost happening. But the said person had 800 BASE jumps and that is likely why it didn't...

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Also, if you're doing a birdman base from 4K feet, do you need a base rig?



Considering you want the most predictable gear possible why wouldn't you take a base rig? Do you want to snivel to impact with a sail slider considering the lower airspeeds of a birdman deployment?



Is a helio and a balloon the only "safe" ways to practice still air exits? I know there is some debate over if you can really practice effectively with a heli because of the rotor wind.

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Also, if you're doing a birdman base from 4K feet, do you need a base rig?



opening issues aside, BASE canopies are 7 cell and much larger than skydiving ones so that they fly slow and can be sunk into tight landing areas.

Unless you are certain you can reach a large flat field with no nasties on the approach you might want to leave the skydiving rig at home. Pin BASE rig rather than velcro though.

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...what was your progression to doing base birdman?



I made just under 100 airplane flights on my Classic, then took it to a big elevator, and made around 15 jumps in three days. Then I started in on cliffs.

I bought my Skyflyer when I had around 150 total wingsuit jumps, and made about 15 skydives on it before BASE jumping with it. I think this was dreadfully inadequate, and really wish I had made another 100 or so jumps on it before I tried an object.

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Did you start out doing base first if so how many jumps, etc.



I had around 500 BASE jumps before my first BASE wingsuit flight.

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...if you're doing a birdman base from 4K feet, do you need a base rig?



If you are doing BASE, you need a BASE rig. Period.

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...if you are going skydiving, do you need a skydiving rig?



Think about it.
-- Tom Aiello

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My first wingsuit jump was my 54th BASE jump. I also had 745 skydives. I'd done 83 wingsuit skydives (1 on a Classic, 55 on a GTi and 27 on a Skyflyer).

A friend of mine with more skydives but less wingsuit did his first wingsuit BASE (on a Classic) with 20-odd BASE jumps.

I also know a old and bold skydiver who's third BASE jump was a wingsuit jump (but he had a huge amount of wingsuit exits from a balloon).

Of course, this is by no mean any recommendation, just some examples.

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How high should you be to exit whit a wingsuit firsttime(BASE)



As high as possible! :-) Height isn't the only fatcor, but also height to impact and but also how vertical (or even overhanging), in case your exit and inital flight is less than perfect.

I chose a 4000 foot (1200m) legal cliff in Italy for my first one. Impact wise it's no different from the tallest legal wall in the Swiss valley (~1700 ft (~500m)) but psychologically it is a lot better and there's more altitude to make use of if things go well.

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which suit would be the best for BASE?



This has been discussed before on the Wingsuit forum on BLINC but some of the posts seem to have gone missing in the transition Mick?

Broadly speaking, there is a consensus that the GTi is the best all round wingsuit considering base/skydiving/wingsuit experience. However, I was comfortable and current on my Skyflyer and chose to do it on that. Plus the leg PC pocket was a big psychological help.

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