cpoxon 0 #1 January 9, 2003 From the man, Robert Fry Pecnik: Bird-man.com videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unutsch 0 #2 January 9, 2003 robi, robi he's our man, if he can't make it no one can Check out the site of the Fallen Angels FreeflY Organisation: http://www.padliangeli.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #3 January 9, 2003 Awesome Videos! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #4 January 9, 2003 Hey, nice videos. I counted just under 50 seconds delay, how far horizontally do you think his opening point was from his exit point? GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #5 January 9, 2003 It looks like he opens right above the landing area, so give or take, about a mile (for a 4000 foot descent to the ground). Robert was been known to take a curving path and still go beyond the landing area and the road. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skylark 0 #6 January 10, 2003 Oh, please! more, MORE! "Into the dangerous world I leapt..." William Blake, Songs of Experience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fergs 0 #7 January 11, 2003 Quote(for a 4000 foot descent to the ground). . So is this cliff 4000' or 2000' - I've seen both numbers mentioned in the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #8 January 11, 2003 It's around 2000 feet to standard impact (no suit, average track), and around 4000 feet (a little more, I think) to landing/wingsuit impact. So, both numbers get thrown around.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fergs 0 #9 January 11, 2003 QuoteIt's around 2000 feet to standard impact (no suit, average track), and around 4000 feet (a little more, I think) to landing/wingsuit impact. So, both numbers get thrown around. ... aha, so seems like a wingsuit is a plus on this one, hahaha. Anyhow, Tom, thnx for the clarification. Cheers, fergbird Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unutsch 0 #10 January 11, 2003 Quote aha, so seems like a wingsuit is a plus on this one, hahaha. a BIG PLUS!!! i've seen a video of a guy who just marely made it over the clif. my heart stopped for a while just by looking at it, so what did it do to the jumper? Check out the site of the Fallen Angels FreeflY Organisation: http://www.padliangeli.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #11 January 13, 2003 Does anyone know about the smoke setup on this jump? I'm interested in jumping smoke with my suit but don't know the specifics.. i've heard over in G&R that the smoke will stain, and burn your suit if you're not careful. Was trying to check out the setup in the video but any input would be appricated. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fergs 0 #12 January 14, 2003 Quote I'm interested in jumping smoke with my suit but don't know the specifics.. i've heard over in G&R that the smoke will stain, and burn your suit if you're not careful. Was trying to check out the setup in the video but any input would be appricated. Kevin Kevin, I've jumped lots of smoke on displays over the past 30 years. There's hot smoke and cold smoke. Hot smoke needs a bracket to keep it away from you. Otherwise you WILL be burned and your jumpsuit as well. Cold smoke can be taped to your shoe. ALL smoke stains your clothes/jumpsuit, from my experience. Some can be washed out, some cannot. I was never able to work out which was which until AFTER trying to wash it. haha Here's a cheap and easy alternative I used to use when pyrotechnic smoke was unavailable .... used to fill a loosely knitted woollen knee-sock with flour and tie/tape it to our shoe or shin. Guess what - it was quite effective. The terminal windblast simply blew a steady stream of flour out through the loose weave. But it was always white only. Over a few beers we would always discuss the possibility of dying the flour different colors, but never got around to it. So there's an experiment you may want to try.... Back to pyrotechnic smoke. The bigger the bracket, the bigger the risk!!!! Risk is basically two fold. Firstly there's chance of entanglement on deployment. This risk is bad enough on a normal skydive - even bigger on a wingsuit dive. You may feel confident keeping it all away from the bracket on a normal skydive or wingsuit jump - but consider a wild spinning malfunction .... take care. Then there's landing. One display I was on some time ago - 4 of us had hot smoke on brackets. One guy's bracket slipped down and hung under his foot under canopy. He didn't notice. He landed and instantly snapped his tib and fib into a nasty compound fracture. Not only did one of the two bones then jam into the turf, but the smoke was still burning and so he had toxic red smoke all over the wound/bone. Believe me, not pretty - a very long recuperation period followed for this poor guy. He didn't jump again for well over a year. So my experience of smoke leads to my always same recommendation - DO NOT USE IT unless someone is paying you very well. Recognise the dangers and plan for each and every contingency. If you really want to be seen in a wingsuit dive, try the flour-in-sock method. Try dying it a different color and let us all know how you fared. Blue Skies, fergbird Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
