Bigger Canopies

[Harksaw 0]

I'm looking for a container for a 170, and I see that some of the javelin J-1's say they fit a 170, and others say they fit a 150 max. Someone told me that if it says it will fit a 150, it can fit a 170 and it'll be tight but not dangerous. Is this true? And why are there some J-1 's that say they fit 150s and some that say they fit 170s?

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[skybytch 273]

A J1KL will hold a 170. A J1 "could" hold a 170 depending on how good of a packer you are and what the humidity is like in your area (more humid = smaller packjob).

Before buying something that is technically too small for the main you plan to put in it - try packing that size main into that size and brand container a few times.

I really don't understand why anyone would encourage someone with limited packing experience to get something they'll have to stuff. Packing zp is a bitch if you've got the right size container. I can think of a number of things I'd rather do than try to put 170 sq ft of slippery snot into a space designed to hold 150 sq ft of slippery snot.

[SCR10480 0]

Hi Stephen! Lisa (skybytch) has a very valid point. I own a J-1 and I put a 170 in it, and it's a challenge! Lisa says "slippery snot," and that's a good discription...

Have you ever tried to stack BB's?

[wmw999 2,565]

I have a J1 and find putting a 150 into it to be plenty challenging. Not too hard, but I wouldn't put something bigger in on any kind of regular basis.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[fundgh 0]

All of this is great advice, however it is equally or more dependent on the condition of the canopy as well. I have a mirage designed for a 150 (but will take a 170), and I had an easier time putting my friends 170 in it than my own (newer) 150. So if you are putting an older ZP 170 in it, you may not have a problem.

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[Dazzle 0]

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And why are there some J-1 's that say they fit 150s and some that say they fit 170s?

I believe that the J1 was sized for a 170 F111 or a 150 ZP so this may be the source of the confusion.

[ZigZagMarquis 9]

I have a J3K with a PD160 Reserve and a Saber2-170. I'd say the Sabre2-170 fits in it snug, but not un-Godly so... but I've got over 2000 pack jobs and I'm a rigger, so I'm not sure how a new-bee would handle packing it.

Aside... I'm of the opinion that Sabre2's pack up smaller then Classic-Sabre's of the same size.

Aside #2... I know a gal at my home DZ that is fairly low time and she jumps a J1 (... not sure what flavor...) with a Classic-Sabre-170 in it. It kicks her ass some days, but she's been managing to close it... so, it is "do-able".

Anyway... I'm kinda about having a container that's not so tiny... i.e. small, but the correct size... so I can pack it faster and make more jumps in a day rather then have the absolute smallest container past what is recommended, but not usafe, that I can jam the main I want to jump into... but that's just me.


Anyhow... there's some more possibly useful info... but... SkyBytch said it best... go find a rig of the same size and try to pack your target main into it a few times and see how it goes and make your own, educated, decission.

[Chrisky 2]

Well, different canopies, different measuring methods = different pack volumes.
Had a J1 with a 150, fitted just fine.

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