skybytch 273 #26 September 16, 2003 QuoteYou don't think it is more reasonable in this case to buy for the 135, and put the 150 in it until i'm ready to downsize, which i'm figuring, won't be long? Again, I wouldn't do that. Or at least I wouldn't do that without having packed a 150 into a container built for a 135 a couple of times. Seriously. It's no fun at all. Your choice, but don't expect us not to say we told you so when you're posting about how much packing sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #27 September 16, 2003 lol! I hear that!! Angela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #28 September 16, 2003 Quote Oops, um, I meant 1.17 : 1 lol! That makes a gigantic difference. Megalicious! However, understand that a 120 for you at 1.17:1 will be way more responsive and twitchy feeling than a 170 at 1.17:1 would be for someone at that weight. The shorter lines have a lot to do with that. So don't expect to downsize that far necessarily as quickly as somone heavier would -- it's apples and oranges. Kind like like how different losing 10 lbs is for you vs. someone who weighs 200. Putting a 150 into a container sized for a 135 will make skydiving either less fun (if you pack yourself) or more expensive (if you pay a packer because it's so tight), or just make your packer hate you (if you were going to pay a packer anyway). It can be done; there are plenty of people who are way more familiar with particular flavors of mix-n-match. And if you go to a 135 pretty quickly, pick it very carefully. You'll want the greatest possible forgivingness and predictability, because it's just plain small. So talk to a canopy guru who's seen you who's also a conservative instructor there. Why conservative? Because if he or she says it's OK, it probably is. And if they say it isn't, well, then you'll have that input. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #29 September 16, 2003 QuoteOops, um, I meant 1.17 : 1 lol! Wendy, I hear what you're saying, but I already feel like the 150 is gonna be too slow to keep for long. But, of course, I want to fly it for a while, anyhow... I know i'll want a 135 b4 long, tho. You don't think it is more reasonable in this case to buy for the 135, and put the 150 in it until i'm ready to downsize, which i'm figuring, won't be long? thx! Angela. girl...SLOW DOWN. you're asking for advice but you're not listening to what everyone's telling ya. good luck with your decision! arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #30 September 16, 2003 Oh god...what is this world coming to...Arlo is the voice of reason! Love you honey Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Galen 0 #31 September 16, 2003 OK, I ddidn't really mean new. I should have just said gear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fundgh 0 #32 September 16, 2003 At your jump numbers, getting gear is the way to go. Here is my take - Get used gear. Be patient you will find something that fits, looks, feels, is right for you. Used gear doesn't lose value too fast, and by the time you are ready for a custom rig and a canopy that you will jump 500 times or more; you can sell yours to another newbie for not much less than you bought it for. I got a smoking deal on a Mirage with less than 120 jumps and a Sabre 150 with less than 300 jumps for $2000. What I was told is that I could put a 135 in this container and it would be nice, but I am not quite ready to downsize. There will be a deal that comes along and grabs you, just be ready to grab it when it comes by! I look forward to the day I am ready to order a brand new rig!...FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #33 September 16, 2003 QuoteAviatrr, i'll probably be up that way, let me know when you'll be around. Although, i'm not trying to buy a rig made for a 120, but it'll give me an idea of what hell it really is. :) Well, the container is sized for a 120/130(they built it so that it was about halfway between a 120 and 135 main tray)...but the D bag is a 135. Watch me stuff that 150 in a 135 D bag once or twice(hell, you may have seen me this past weekend wrestling with it if you were at Sebastian) and you will probably change your mind. I'll be down there probably Sat and Sun the 27th and 28th. Black and maroon container, with a blue and purple main....freefly suit matches the container. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #34 September 16, 2003 Thanks, everyone! I will be looking for used gear and if nothing I want comes along in the next month, new gear it'll be. I can't wait forever! :p Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fundgh 0 #35 September 16, 2003 edit - no advertising items for sale in the forums. send a pm, 'kay? thanks ...FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #36 September 17, 2003 QuoteAnd, what kind of BOC pouch would be good? Is it necessary to upgrade from plain old spandex crap? " Bottom of Container Pouches - To avoid the hassle of replacing a spandex BOC pocket every 200-300 jumps, we also offer a cordura pouch which is designed into the container. It is manufactured with the same 1000D cordura as the container to reduce wear and tear. We have also developed a larger, spacious pouch to allow the pilot chute to be flattened, giving the bottom of the container a cleaner, sleek look. " I don't see cordura as an upgrade. I have 950 jumps on my Javelin's spandex BOC, which is showing absolutely no problem. I expect that the spandex is more forgiving of the way I wad/shove my pilot chute into the sleeve than cordura. Gary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #37 September 17, 2003 Angela; I think you should buy your first gear used, and then spend the money you saved on jump tickets. Your piloting skills will improve with the number of jumps you make, and soon, you'll get bored with your current equipment. It takes many hundred jumps to push your equipment to the edge of it's capabilities, so don't hurry to go smaller. For your first gear, you should get a canopy on the bigger side. Bigger is more forgiving of the mistakes you'll make in the learning process. Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #38 September 17, 2003 I'm looking for used gear now. I can't wait too long, tho, cuz i've got to make dives, and it's hard with no rig. +, the rentals at Sebastian are not freefly friendly, so I end up driving to Z-hills which is FAAAR (but worth the ride! :) ) thx! Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #39 September 17, 2003 It's curious! Sebastian is said to be the mecca of freefly in Florida, being home of the Freefly Training center, and yet, they don't have Freefly friendly rental gear? My guess is they think all people involved in freeflying already have their own gear!!Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #40 September 17, 2003 Quotethey don't have Freefly friendly rental gear? That will be changing very soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fundgh 0 #41 September 17, 2003 I was in Sebastian last year and used rental gear that was FreeFly Friendly (say that 10 times fast). Has that changed, or did I miss something about the gear? It was actually a pretty nice javelin that I rented, with a Sabre 170 in it....FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveNFlorida 0 #42 September 17, 2003 Awesome! The gear I rented was definitely not freefly friendly. It was velcro everywhere (main pin cover, risers), it held a Sabre170. I am talking to some people about used gear. Sure wish I was a gear expert like you, Lisa! Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
fundgh 0 #41 September 17, 2003 I was in Sebastian last year and used rental gear that was FreeFly Friendly (say that 10 times fast). Has that changed, or did I miss something about the gear? It was actually a pretty nice javelin that I rented, with a Sabre 170 in it....FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #42 September 17, 2003 Awesome! The gear I rented was definitely not freefly friendly. It was velcro everywhere (main pin cover, risers), it held a Sabre170. I am talking to some people about used gear. Sure wish I was a gear expert like you, Lisa! Angela. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
