Nightingale 0 #1 December 31, 2003 I'm VERY interested in CReW... at what level would pursuing this interest be reasonable? I know doing it now would be completely out of the question, but at the average progression of canopy skills, about how many jumps til someone can start thinking of CReW? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 December 31, 2003 I know Wendy has taken people up as soon as they get their A licence. Its never too soon to start learning about how to deal with wraps, entanglements, and other situations. I'm planning on doing some CRW in the spring with a few people that have less then 50 jumps. With proper briefings and education an A licence is plenty to start to do 2 ways with.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #3 December 31, 2003 QuoteI'm VERY interested in CReW... at what level would pursuing this interest be reasonable? I know doing it now would be completely out of the question, but at the average progression of canopy skills, about how many jumps til someone can start thinking of CReW? Varies considerably. Depends on the individual and who you're doing it with. If you are learning with a mega-experienced CRWDog, one doesn't need much experience at all. The Dark side calls another one Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #4 December 31, 2003 I started at just over 100 jumps. But I've got Henny Wiggers and the Dutch national rotation team and another sequential team at my DZ If you can find a good instructor, I'd say go for it... You'll learn a lot. I love it. I also like the questions from other jumpers; some think CRW is scary If you want your (Dutch) C license (200 freefall jumps minimum and a lot of other stuff) you need at least 5 CRW jumps, which I think is a very good idea... And a lot of jumpers that were kinda scared before may not do CRW ever again but aren't that scared anymore of a canopy nearby. But our recent canopy rules saying you can't jump a Lightning or even a Triathlon (ANY Triathlon ) or any other CRW canopy till 100 jumps... Meaning if you want to do CRW before that you'd have to jump your own canopy or a Spectre or something. You can certainly do excersizes and stuff but for your first dock something solid and without microlines might be much better Anyway go find a knowledgeable CRWdog, don't just try stuff with anybody else untill YOU know what you're doing, would be my advise. Of course I DID, and it turned out well, but.... ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #5 December 31, 2003 One other thing; to get somewhat serious about CRW you need to jump about the same WL as the other jumpers. This automatically means you need a lot more jumps if you want to do more then 2 ways especially arranged for you. Unless everybody else happens to jump at a very low WL of course. For me to get my B license stuff I needed a couple 2ways, easy to arrange, even at 105 jumps (I jumped a WL of 1 at the time). But for the 3 and 4 ways I needed, I tried a year long to get 3 guys at the same time flying 'boats' just for me. Didn't happen... Only when I was allowed a Lightning 126, WL 1.25 without lead, did I finally get anywhere. At our DZ most jump a WL of about 1.3 (Lightnings), with Team Teuge jumping about 1.8 which is way too high for me and they jump Tri's anyway. But my Lightning 126 finally allowed me to join other groups without hassle. So I jumped 3 ways, 4ways, an 8 way, couple of 6 ways, etc all in one week after a year of 2ways every now and again. The 2ways were fun, and you learn more from those probably, but I needed bigger formations to get my licence... ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #6 December 31, 2003 I did my first CRW jump at no. 52 and was instructed by experienced jumpers. Now, I return the favor by teaching anyone and everyone I can get my hands on at my DZ (I think most dawgs have this same mentality -- if we don't bring new jumpers over to the Dark Side, we won't have anybody to jump with). I see that you jump at Perris; a bunch of very experienced dawgs will be in Perris the weekend of Jan. 16. You should try to connect with them (dawgs are VERY approachable and VERY willing to help new jumpers see the beauty of the Dark Side). Even if you don't do any CRW jumps, you'll undoubtedly come away with a great deal of knowledge about CRW and make some new friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #7 December 31, 2003 I normally take people up whenever they get 20 jumps and their own rig (non-student gear). My Lightning is compatible on small-ways with a large number of other canopies, so I typically teach students on their "beginner" canopies. Its never to early to start learning, and there are LOTS of extremely experienced crwdogs in California who can help you out. W Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #8 December 31, 2003 cool! thanks so much for all the replies, everyone!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #9 December 31, 2003 talk to Mike Muscat @ Perris ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #10 January 2, 2004 You are very lucky to be in Perris, where there are many talented CRWdogs to choose from. I knew from jump #1 that my heart was set on CRW, but had no idea how to get started. On jump #55, I was lucky enough to have Chris, who must be the only CRWdog who is actively jumping in Georgia, offer to teach me CRW. On my 1'st dock, my smile practically lit up the sky and I jumped up and down on the landing area like a 5 year old (OK...so some things never change). I owe him a world of thanks for saving me from RW. I notice that you have a very large main canopy. I, too have a large canopy. I can forsee only one problem for you and it will be the same thing I ran across. If you get a GOOD, SAFETY CONSCIOUS CRWdog like I have, they will not let you jump a very small canopy for a while. My CRWdog started teaching me with a 1:1.0 wing loading. Trust me when I tell you that this is a very safe idea. Most CRWdogs jump Lightnings and are flying wing loadings of roughly 1:1.3-1:1.385 or more. That is a high wing loading with lots of responsibilities for a new jumper who is also trying to learn CRW. The first time I wanted to go to a CRW camp and jump a 143 Lighting, I thought he was going to disown me (of course, it turned out to be a 126 I jumped and I thought I was going to puke from nervousness). I now have around 160 jumps and have gotten my 4-stack, CCR, and CCS awards. I've had a lot of good CRWdogs help me accomplish these goals. I haven't met a CRWdog yet who isn't willing to help a CRWpup get started. So get your rear up into the air and try some CRW as soon as you can, but be safe. Practice, practice, practice.....flaring, landing, accuracy. And remember, don't let anyone talk you into doing anything YOU don't feel comfortable doing. Good luck and I hope to see you at a CRW meet soon. Please keep us updated how things go. Blue skies, Nina TharpNina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
