mikeat10500 12 #1 March 17, 2003 Hi everyone, I have 2 Questions re: gear. I like a little CReW but am by no means an expert. 1 Do some of you do recreational CRW w/micro lines? " I thought I would be shunned for the thought by the pro's". 2 Does anyone use something other than 3 ring for main release ie: clam shells? thanks mike.----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #2 March 17, 2003 QuoteHi everyone, I have 2 Questions re: gear. I like a little CReW but am by no means an expert. 1 Do some of you do recreational CRW w/micro lines? " I thought I would be shunned for the thought by the pro's". --- I don't really recommend it, and I try not to teach people on microlines, but I do. I stick to basic stacks and simple stuff and have never had a problem. Dacron is a much better choice for CRW however. I just tend to do some with microlines because that's what everyone has and I wanna touch canopies :-) -- 2 Does anyone use something other than 3 ring for main release ie: clam shells? --- Never even heard of clam shells. Never seen anyone use anything but 3-rings. W Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites parachutist 2 #3 March 17, 2003 QuoteHi everyone, I have 2 Questions re: gear. I like a little CReW but am by no means an expert. 1 Do some of you do recreational CRW w/micro lines? " I thought I would be shunned for the thought by the pro's". 2 Does anyone use something other than 3 ring for main release ie: clam shells? thanks mike. I would like to add in that while CReW is not so bad with microlines on large canopies (still not recommended tho), it gets a good bit more risky with highly loaded canopies. The higher the wing loading then the quicker that bad things, such as wraps, can happen... and the less time you will have to react. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #4 March 17, 2003 >Does anyone use something other than 3 ring for main release ie: clam shells? I had to actually go and look this up and I would'nt recommend anything old on any modern harness. If you need to use vintage gear shot and a halfs or capewells might be better but should still be avoided. I love CRW and have done a few microline stacks and I noticed an increase in the "digging in" feeling of the lines during stack turns.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mikeat10500 12 #5 March 17, 2003 >Never even heard of clam shells. Never seen anyone use anything but 3-rings. I don't know if thats what the are really called, or if I could accurately describe the system.Two pieces of machined metal that hinge at the bottom" i think , saw them a long time ago" w/closing loop passing through drilled holes in both pieces at the top. normal cutaway handle and cables pulled through the loops, they un-hinge and fall apart . one half attached to riser and the other on the main lift web. never seen them sense. They looked very cool "square black box shaped things were your three rings go. only down side I could see to the system was the cost. Someone else must have seen these before?----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #6 May 6, 2003 By "cl;am shells" you are probably referring to the Chrysalis release system that was invented in Washington State many years ago. Chrysalis never got very popular because 3-Rings were already well established before it was introduced. The main reason 3-Rings dominate the parachute industry is their wide manufacturing tolerances. 3-Rings have to be grossly out of tolerance before they will jam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mikeat10500 12 #7 May 7, 2003 Cool...at least someone has heard of or seen them. I see what you mean about tolerances. ...mike ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
parachutist 2 #3 March 17, 2003 QuoteHi everyone, I have 2 Questions re: gear. I like a little CReW but am by no means an expert. 1 Do some of you do recreational CRW w/micro lines? " I thought I would be shunned for the thought by the pro's". 2 Does anyone use something other than 3 ring for main release ie: clam shells? thanks mike. I would like to add in that while CReW is not so bad with microlines on large canopies (still not recommended tho), it gets a good bit more risky with highly loaded canopies. The higher the wing loading then the quicker that bad things, such as wraps, can happen... and the less time you will have to react. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 March 17, 2003 >Does anyone use something other than 3 ring for main release ie: clam shells? I had to actually go and look this up and I would'nt recommend anything old on any modern harness. If you need to use vintage gear shot and a halfs or capewells might be better but should still be avoided. I love CRW and have done a few microline stacks and I noticed an increase in the "digging in" feeling of the lines during stack turns.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeat10500 12 #5 March 17, 2003 >Never even heard of clam shells. Never seen anyone use anything but 3-rings. I don't know if thats what the are really called, or if I could accurately describe the system.Two pieces of machined metal that hinge at the bottom" i think , saw them a long time ago" w/closing loop passing through drilled holes in both pieces at the top. normal cutaway handle and cables pulled through the loops, they un-hinge and fall apart . one half attached to riser and the other on the main lift web. never seen them sense. They looked very cool "square black box shaped things were your three rings go. only down side I could see to the system was the cost. Someone else must have seen these before?----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 May 6, 2003 By "cl;am shells" you are probably referring to the Chrysalis release system that was invented in Washington State many years ago. Chrysalis never got very popular because 3-Rings were already well established before it was introduced. The main reason 3-Rings dominate the parachute industry is their wide manufacturing tolerances. 3-Rings have to be grossly out of tolerance before they will jam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeat10500 12 #7 May 7, 2003 Cool...at least someone has heard of or seen them. I see what you mean about tolerances. ...mike ----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
