murrays 0 #26 September 4, 2003 As you point out, an unstable opening with either system can result in a horseshoe. The only scenario for a horseshoe with a pull-out that I have been able to envision is having your pin knocked out while your handle is still attached. I don't know if the handle would get pulled loose or not. Depends on how well secured it is and what happens when your main container opens...will the bag float off, the main start to open and create enough drag to pull the handle and pilot chute loose or what? This is the worst case scenario for a pull-out..as far as I am concerned. A floating handle is nothing...you find it and deploy your main or you don't find it and deploy your reserve ....into clean air. I can't understand why this seems to freak people out so much.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #27 September 4, 2003 Quote The only scenario for a horseshoe with a pull-out that I have been able to envision is having your pin knocked out while your handle is still attached. I don't know if the handle would get pulled loose or not. Depends on how well secured it is and what happens when your main container opens...will the bag float off, the main start to open and create enough drag to pull the handle and pilot chute loose or what? This is the worst case scenario for a pull-out..as far as I am concerned. well, i can tell you that if my container opens, that is what holds my pud in. on the lip of the container, and i believe the mirage is this way too. and i really don't think that velcro would hold a canopy from inflating. and something like this, you could still reach back and pull. where as the BOC, unless you pack your pilot chute they way brian germain shows, then it will ball up and you won't be able to pull it out (maybe and that's a big maybe if you have a spandex pouch). later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #28 September 4, 2003 My pullout has a spring loaded handle, and each end fits into a small pocket of webbing on the bottom of the container. (Old racer) It wouldn't be automatically released in the event of the main container opening. The systems you describe are a step forward, imo, and appear to eliminate a scenario that I have had some concern about for over 20 years of jumping a pullout. Thanks for the information. Not many people up here jump pullouts any more and I don't get away very much.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites