Andrewnewell 0 #1 March 4, 2005 Does anyone know what this comp is going to consist of? IE free rounds as well as compulsorys or is it gonna be based on compulsory's alone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #2 March 8, 2005 Where is it? Any more info? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #3 March 8, 2005 Hello there, The Grand-Prix's are.. 30 April - 2 May @ British Parachute Schools, Langar 9 - 10 July @ Target Skysports, Hibaldstow They are going to be run the same as the Nationals, but we are trying to improve the competition for B-Category competitors due to problems last year. This year the Artistics are sponsored by 'Alti-2' makers of the Neptune Audible and Visual Altimeter I have a page on the BPA website where you can check out whats happening with the Grand-Prix, Nationals and Roadshows. http://www.bpa.org.uk/artisticcompsnews.htm If you have any other questions then please feel free to contact me Nigel Holland Artistics Discipline Rep-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewnewell 0 #4 March 9, 2005 Idealamundo! Hope our guys can get together for that. But it dont look likely. Thanks for the int. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #5 March 9, 2005 Thanks Nigel...thinking about coming along as that sound like a good laugh... Any more roadshows happening this year with free jive? Anything planned for St Andrews? Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fedykin 0 #6 March 11, 2005 i however am extreemly enthusiastic about the event and have absolute faith in not only the people organising it, but also the BPA's support for the event demos for hats isnt that what you are andy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #7 March 11, 2005 Was that in response to something, or just completely random? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewnewell 0 #8 March 12, 2005 Ah P' Glad you could join us. Its always a pleasure to read your intelligent and thought provoking posts. What's more Hattish? serving in a specialist airborne regiment, Or leaving the joys of battalion life as a under paid tom, to take up swashbuckeling in some webster's officers mess thats steeped in hatism? Hehehe. Only joking buddy. i however am extreemly enthusiastic about the event and have absolute faith in not only the people organising it, but also the BPA's support for the event Me too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmcvey 0 #9 March 18, 2005 Can you elaborate on your negative feelings towards the event? Not done a nationals yet and have only heard good things so far (i.e it was great fun and everyone learnt loads, made new friends, etc...) Would be interested in hearing a different opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewnewell 0 #10 March 18, 2005 Good old Fedykin. Looks like hes got too much time on his hands? Whats with all that negativity? Hahaha. Hope you had a great time out in Lillo with Mikey C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fedykin 0 #11 March 18, 2005 its really a couple of things 1. broadly speaking the dropzones and the bpa tend to really milk the competitors for everything they can ie..'monetarily'. 2. the standard of the judging is pretty low, it is a issue internationally but in the UK it is a particular issue 3. one of the personalities organising, on that i shall say no more 4. i think generally its a difficult situation freefly wise for competition. standards of flying are the lowest in europe and the freefly crowd isnt particularly good at organising itself(its intrests) so the lowest common(and i emphasise the word common)denominator tends to take over. but partly thats the apathy of the freefly public in the UK 5. and no, none of this has to do with weather... belgium and switzerland have it statistically as bad as we do, and disposable income is similar, so as far as im concerned its a primarily cultural issue. everyone likes to claim its the weather, but as we've seen its not the case, look at the russains, again. 6. i just feel that if your honestly serious about freefly and competition, then you go over to the US(money meet at az + colon berrys stuff east coast) or europe for the space games etc.. its really because there's something in these other national characters that makes them much more disciplined in learning to fly and in progressive attitudes towards the sport. ,, hey no more negative vibes, MEDICATE THIS MAN SERGEANT MAJOR... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmcvey 0 #12 March 18, 2005 Apart from slots on the aircraft/registration what other costs are involved in entering the nationals? (seriously, i dont know and cud do with knowing this stuff) Not too sure about the judging issue? Would imagine some differences in opinion would arise from the free rounds, but that is to be expected surely? Cant see how the compulseries would be judged badly? The bit about the competition, ok sure competing at the space games is surely a good test of your own freefly ability, and the stuff in florida (AD challenge? not sure) is great, are you saying the top 3~4 brit teams arent enough competition? Regarding the organisation of ourselves and things considered "pushing the envelope" we are no doubt behind. But there is a pretty good freefly scene developing in the UK and it can only get better. When did you last attend the regionals/nationals??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fedykin 0 #13 March 20, 2005 okay, point by point judging on the free rounds was rubbish(they werent scoring any of the guys any point on anything horizontal...!) on the compulsaries they didnt want any camera interaction, and according to FAI competition scoring guidlines, this is an essential portion of the judging ie... 0 = no camera interaction, lots of blue sky etc... 10= massive 3D camera interaction, aways in frame etc... right, top 3-4 brit teams not good enough, well you said that i didnt i spend 3 month a year abroad training in the US and europe(august is one of those months), so taking a couple of days out to hang around in the UK to put up with all sorts of rubbish when i can actually be pogressing seems like madness to me,and for what to take a medal and get no funding from the BPA, free jive has put up with that for years... i dont know why they even bother, cred probably, not that they need it... the uk freefly scene is in all honesty about a dozen give or take one or two competent people all in all, so yeah, great... getting better, not hard by those figures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmcvey 0 #14 March 20, 2005 But isnt the camera work on compulseries judged on basically how well/clearly each point is presented? Not if the camera is 'artistically' showing the move, which is what is required of camera in the free rounds? Hey i dont know i wasnt there so cant really comment on the quality of the judging. I didnt say the top 3-4 teams arent enough competition, i asked. In my opinion and from my experience level they are more than enough competition and realistically not one we expect to beat. But we'll give it a go because 'all that shit' ie socialise with jumpers from elswhere, drink in the bar, jump loads in a competetive enviroment and learn shit loads from guys far better than us, sounds like a good weekend to me.?? I can see freeflying is a very personal thing for you and you dont feel the need to 'prove' your ability. Which is great. rock on. but why train so hard if its not about ones 'ability'? Dont know we all have our own reasons to get better. Y free jive dont get funding im not entirely sure, theres some criteria i know, maybe theres other reasons which you will have to ask them about. and if you can afford 3 months abroad every year dont really think you need that funding too bad eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #15 March 31, 2005 Quote3. one of the personalities organising, on that i shall say no more Me!??!!?!?!?!? -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #16 April 3, 2005 What is the freefly scene like in Canada? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #18 April 5, 2005 Yes Piers you do know me, Nigel Holland-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #19 April 5, 2005 We are now only weeks away from the BPA's first Freefly Grand Prix which is being held at Langar on the 30th April - 2nd May 2005 To take part just turn up on Friday 29th April to register and the competition will start first thing the following morning. There is NO ENTRY FEE! Jumps are £19 per person per round, (£57 per team) These prices are set by the DZ and not by the BPA The 'A' category has 7 rounds FCFFCFF and the 'B' has 5 rounds FCFFC Check out my Artistics page for more dates and information, the rules will be on the site as soon as they are approved by council http://www.bpa.org.uk/artisticcompsnews.htm Lets make this competition a success!! I hope to see as many of you there as possible, Nigel Holland BPA Artistics Rep-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #20 April 26, 2005 This weekend!! Anyone entering? Nigel-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hkf 0 #21 April 27, 2005 Are there any rules yet for the B, and if so what are they Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigelh 0 #22 April 28, 2005 The rules were approved at Comps last night, They should be on the BPA website now Nigel-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Sponored by NZ Aerosports, CYPRES 2, Tonfly & L&B Team Dirty Sanchez #232 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
