mouth 0 #1 August 12, 2003 I'm looking into the future for when I finally get cleared to return to jumping from my accident and wonder what everyone's thoughts on upsizing my main would be. I jump a Spectre 135 that I load at about 1.04:1 right now. I'm considering moving up to a 150 Spectre until I get full strength in my arm based on the logic that I won't be coming in as fast thus the flare point should be easier for me to reach without further damaging my arm. Any intelligent thoughts on this would be appreciated. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #2 August 12, 2003 why not wait until you don't have to worry about your arm any more? ------------------------------------------------------------Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meathorse 0 #3 August 12, 2003 Because you can't just run out and get a new main the day your arm feels well enough to get back in the air. Planning ahead = good edit: Oops, never mind, I missread that. If it's upsize or stay on the ground for a few months I wouldn't want to wait either.... And while I'm making an ass of myself I'll ask a silly question: Would a larger canopy require more strength to land since you're pulling on a bit more fabric when you flare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #4 August 12, 2003 yes but even under a larger main you still run a higher risk of reinjury if you are not completely healed in the first place. By no means am I saying not to upsize, I'm just saying that if you are worried about flying a canopy at a 1:1 wing loading then maybe it's still a little too early. ------------------------------------------------------------Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #5 August 12, 2003 and let's also remember that speed equals lift.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohanW 0 #6 August 12, 2003 Doesn't lift scale with area as well? And how's area's effect on stall speed? I can't remember the formulae, HELP!, but isn't there something to be said for a nice, more forgiving, bigger canopy to avoid injuries?Johan. I am. I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #7 August 13, 2003 Wait! Just time can heal broken wings. You should be able to handle that wingload with your level of experience. A bigger canopy wont make your arm heal faster. Safe landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #8 August 13, 2003 But a bigger canopy will take you to the scene of the accident at a slower pace. The key to minimizing injuries is arriving at the scene of the accident slowly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 August 13, 2003 Quote and let's also remember that speed equals lift. Speed equals lift in approximately the same way that peanut butter equals sandwich. It is a part of the equation, but without all the parts, all you really have is a lot of goo on your hands.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatmissile 0 #10 August 24, 2003 Once, in my not-so-recent stupid youth I did a jump with a cast on my leg. It was broken just above the ankle in a non-skydiving (beer related) incident, and despite being told to lay off jumping for at least 6 months by the doctor, I had to get up there again after two weeks. I decided to use a 285 sq ft student canopy instead of my bladerunner 150, figuring that it would be easier to land softly. Mistake. I flared it way too high and came down hard. The moral of the story? Stick to your equipment - you know it well. Rather wait a while longer -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #11 August 24, 2003 QuoteSpeed equals lift in approximately the same way that peanut butter equals sandwich. SCIENCE! ROFL!! Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katiebear21 0 #12 August 24, 2003 QuoteThe moral of the story? Stick to your equipment - you know it well. Rather wait a while longer I completely disagree. Your situation was a huge adjustment and you were jumping with a cast on. Lisa's talking about upsizing in order to gain more control over her landings and prevent from hurting her arm again. While I don't believe upsizing 15 sq ft will take any noticeable amount of pressure off her arm, she will definitely be coming in a little slower thus generally safer. Staying with the same 7-cell canopy (Spectre) and loading it a bit less is probably a good idea in this situation. As to waiting until it's healed, she won't dare jump before she's cleared by her doctor, CPT Katie's order! Katie Get your PMS glass necklace here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #13 August 24, 2003 Mouth.. In my opinion. It will take more strength to flare a bigger canopy than the one you have. Stick with the gear you have. At that loading you are plenty docile and you know your canopy. Just jump on days where you have a little wind so you don't have to work so hard.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatmissile 0 #14 August 24, 2003 QuoteI completely disagree. Your situation was a huge adjustment and you were jumping with a cast on. Lisa's talking about upsizing in order to gain more control over her landings and prevent from hurting her arm again. While I don't believe upsizing 15 sq ft will take any noticeable amount of pressure off her arm, she will definitely be coming in a little slower thus generally safer. Staying with the same 7-cell canopy (Spectre) and loading it a bit less is probably a good idea in this situation. As to waiting until it's healed, she won't dare jump before she's cleared by her doctor, CPT Katie's order! Umm, respectfully: apparently you're wrong. Read weekend numbers. She did an RW jump today, and I bet she used her own rig ! -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatmissile 0 #15 August 24, 2003 QuoteStick with the gear you have. Only this once will I agree with you . -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #16 August 24, 2003 QuoteUmm, respectfully: apparently you're wrong. Read weekend numbers. From weekend numbers - QuoteNO I did not jump by myself becuase my stupid arm is still not fully healed or anywhere near strong enough to flare my canopy, so thanks to some wonderful friends at Skydive Atlanta I got to do a 6 way tandem RW with video for the sunset load last night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatmissile 0 #17 August 24, 2003 I guess I'll have to read a bit slower so as not to miss the vital facts. Well, I lost the bet, it would seem . Children, stand back and watch! For today's class we are going to learn how to make a fool of oneself! Pay carefull attention to what meatmissile is doing ! -- ZZZzzzz.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #18 August 26, 2003 QuotePost: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and let's also remember that speed equals lift. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speed equals lift in approximately the same way that peanut butter equals sandwich. It is a part of the equation, but without all the parts, all you really have is a lot of goo on your hands. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***I guess the humor was lost since I didn't use the little face icon thingy......Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
