Turning the Stand

[stoneycase 0]

I've recently been nailing out my Sit - Stand transitions (and vice-versa, which is more difficult by the way) and I'm interested in learning how to turn or spin the stand. I've noticed that I can fly stable in stand for quite sometime. If I do start to turn in the stand I'm unsure as to how to compensate and my only way out is slowly back into a sit.

Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. If I had the money I'd pay for some freefly coaching, but well I don't have the cash :(

Oh and a general question: What's the fastest speed you've reached in a stand?

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[NeedToJump 0]

I think of a stand as a fast sit. It's basically the same but with your legs extended (like you were speeding up a sit) and therefore a bit less stable because there is less area being presented into the wind. I turn the same way as I would in a sit, either move one hand behind me, turn my hands so they are at 45 degree angles to the wind or turn my upper body in the direction I want to turn.

The best way to learn (as you correctly stated) is with coaching. Second to that is to go out with people who are better than you and have them get into a fast stand or HD so you have to be in a stand to keep up with them and you turn to face them without even thinking about the physical movements needed to do so.

My fastest stand was 206 according to my ProTrack(arms straight up above me.)

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[hookitt 1]

The simple answer, and I mean this... Just try it.

Turn your body one way or the other and away you go. Then do it the other way.

Then do quick 90 degree turns all the way around pausing briefly in between each 90. Then do it the other way.

Just remember, any thing you train right, train left.

You don't want to end up being a rockstar at left triple weedeaters but can hardly do a single right weedeater to save your life.

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[brits17 0]

i've always turned with just my hands, with a tad arm/upper body input. your head is also a good leader in the direction you're intending to turn. 188 mph is fastest... but i'm an itty-bitty... whopping 102 lbs

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[hookitt 1]

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188 mph is fastest...

Not BAD!!!... point your toes raise your hands all the way up and see what you can do

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[eWave 0]

From the "stable sit" thread, my post:

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You can easily turn when sitflying by just turning your head to the direction you want to turn. You'll same time rotate your upperbody and hands to that direction.

One trick that worked on me: Think that there is lots of beer behind you... That will make you turn

Same will work on stand also, trust me

[goose491 0]

Actually, the trend around these parts is moving towards simply calling it Head UP flying... as oppose to Head Down1.

Stand is just a fast Sit... being that we all have different 'natural' terminal velocities here on earth, we go out for a 'head-up' dive instead of a 'Sit' ... your inputs to turn in a stand should be very much the same as in a sit, thing is, anything done with your legs will give you more 'wobble' in a stand because A) your control surface is more streamlined and longer (legs) and B) your speed is significantly increased.

Turning with your arms (which is how I do it I'm pretty sure) should require the same inputs in a stand but just slightly less is needed because of the increased speed.

I find also, that in a stand, I cup more with my hands... uh, If I'm driving forward at someone, my arms are back, but my fingers point slightly downward making my palms face downwards and forward... I can actually feel the relative wind hitting my hands in a rear-ward fashion (in other words, my hands are fighting the forward motion ever so slightly) this gives me two benefits. 1) It gives me a little rigidity in the arms to lean against and stabelise any of that 'wobble' and 2) It give me the indication that yes, I do have a positive forward motion.... reading over, I'm not sure if this makes any sense to read but basically, keep your palms facing the relative wind and it'll give you some leverage to stay stable... also, if you make a point to almost always have the wind striking you palms dead-on, then the way your palms are facing indicates your flight path to you.

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