Increasing fallrate

[SanDiegoRW 0]

I'm just trying to figure out all the ways to increase fallrate in a sit. I'm tired of flying around in a stand all the time just to keep up with the group. My average in my F/F suit is 134, average in F/F pants and T-shirt is 138, average in shorts and t-shirt is 142. My suit is a bit baggy on me, but based on my fallrate in shorts I need more than just a tighter suit to help me out. I started flying with my legs together to pick up fallrate and it does help, but I don't like doing that all the time. Any suggestions? I've had some video and coach jumps done. My back is straight and my legs are at 90. Arms are slightly above shoulders. I've got some advice and it was good but I want to see what others say too. Is my only option weights? Should I get a vest or a belt?

-Kenny

[blazingcannon 0]

Widen your legs all the way to the sides like straddling a big horse, with legs still at 90degrees.
Push legs down gradually to a wide-legged stand to go even faster.

Think feetflying instead of assflying
Feet have less surface area than ass.
With less ass grabbing air, fallrate should increase.

Like Brian Germain says:
"sitflying should look like headdown, only it's upright.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Glen.

"Spread your legs and fly"

[SanDiegoRW 0]

Yeah I was just looking at some pics with guys in a sit, flying with a guy in a headdown and they are wide legged like that. Makes it easier to transition to headdown too I would imagine. Thanks for the input I'll try it next Saturday and let you know how it worked.

-Kenny

[ianmdrennan 2]

The increased leg stance will give you more horizontal stability with less reliance on arms and give you more freedom to take grips, etc with your arms.

Blue skies
Ian

Performance Designs Factory Team

[blazingcannon 0]

have fun and remember to practise facing 90degrees from jumprun!

cheers,
Glen.

"Spread your legs and fly"

[SanDiegoRW 0]

I've been working on using my arms for docking only thats why I don't like flying with them straight up to increase fall rate. I tried a different arm position (arms bent at elbow with forearm facing forward instead of sticking straight out to the side) and it didn't effect my stability any. Like sitting in an arm chair I suppose. I got the idea from that head up flying article that is always surfacing in forums here and so I decided to give it a try. I don't know if there are any down sides to it. I switch arm positions now and then just for a change but I don't seem to notice much of a difference. I don't see anyone else flying like that either. Any remarks?

-Kenny

[ianmdrennan 2]

Hi,

Not really sure which article you are referring to but I'd say that you should be using legs and torso for fallrate and movement (not sure if this is what you're asking) and not sweeping the arms up. Sure it may be necessary in very high speed dives to do something like that but that indicates other issues with the dive so we'll assume that for this conversation we're talking about a "normal" speed sit jump.

The fact that you are able to move your arms about without losing stability is a really good thing, so just focus on pressing those feet down and keeping the torso straight.

Never seen you fly, but it's worth noting that oftentimes people who have their feet down and are still experiencing slower fallrates normally are leaning forward (or backward, but mostly forward looking down at the group) and slowing themselves down with their torso unintentionally - not to mention the resulting drive changing the distance from the group.

Hope this helps in some way.

Good luck and blue skies
Ian

Performance Designs Factory Team