tosca 0 #1 March 23, 2003 Which is the best way to hold someone in a stable head-up, if the person can´t freefly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #2 March 23, 2003 How about launching a train? That was the first was that I ever attempted a sit.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noggydog 0 #3 March 23, 2003 My first sit attempt was feet and knees gripping another guys feet and knees, both of us with rest of our bodys is the sit position facing each other. Rolled out went HD for a second than got stable head up sit. SOOO FUN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #4 March 24, 2003 I'd say a train is probably most likely to result in some success. Try and get a bar stool, and a mirror, sit the student on the bar stool and show them the sit position (head up creeper?), mirror is useful so they can see, but not critical....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #5 March 24, 2003 it really helps if you have 2 proficient sit flyers and put the newbie in the middle of a sit train... then the bottom guy/gal can drag it down and the top person and pul up putting the newbie in the best position... have fuN! -yoshi_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #6 March 24, 2003 Ah yes Yoshi, but then we have to start thinking about physique. EG I am normally at the front....The physics work better that way.. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #7 March 24, 2003 well either way.. but from working with people learning to sit even if there are only 2 people I think that the pperson learning to sit should be in front.. of course if the experienced person weighs 75lbs more than that can be tricky:) -yoshi_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #8 March 25, 2003 Quote of course if the experienced person weighs 75lbs more than that can be tricky:) Not necessarily. My exit weight is about 250-260 and I've succesfully taken smaller people sitflying with me controlling from the back. The easiest way to do it is basically ass-fly it. Keep it leaned back but not driving forward. It also gives me the advantage of having a better view of them to see what they are doing with their arms & legs. KrisSky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #9 March 25, 2003 exactly... im not saying at all that a heavier person couldnt be on the top of a train, and that its better in my opinion to have the more experienced at the top for all of those reasons..to see whats going on...to help correct what the "student" is doing wrong, to see it all... I was jsut saying if the top persons fall rate exceeds the bottom persons fallrate with all of thier flying capacity being used, then it makes it prety difficult... -yoshi_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapper4mpi 0 #10 March 26, 2003 The train is a good way to refine and build upon skills they might have. I always suggest a jumper tries sitting a few times on their own doing a solo, then when they feel they can hold a sit, then I jump with them, from a distance. I give them a few tips on form and usually within a few solos they are ready for a train. Just my advice for a very conservative progression. -Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnJug 0 #11 March 26, 2003 Ok, I have a question for the experts on train exits. I did my first train last weekend. I am a pretty new freeflyer. I was the bottom person on the train. My problem was that while we were in the train I couldn't get my feet down so I was in a reclined sit, so when we exited the train I fell onto my back and went high, then I couldn't get back down to the person I was jumping with (who was bigger than me). Is this a normal difficulty in trains? Is there a trick to getting your feet down if you are the bottom person in a train? You come from nothing. You go back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #12 March 26, 2003 what I do if I get high on exit is just ball up... make yourself as small as possible so your fall rate will be faster than the top person. then once down try to push your feet down and if needed you might need to stand up a little bit... pm me if you want more detail... -yoshi_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoobieCootie 0 #13 March 26, 2003 Here's my "pre-second" sit fly jump. Took place at Alaska Skydiving during their boogie last year. Coach was none other than Mike Ortizftp://ftp.skydivingmovies.com/UPLOADS/MikeOrtizCoachedSitfly.mov Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #14 March 27, 2003 thats some bad ass video skills Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
