Snowflake 0 #1 January 6, 2003 I got extremly lucky and got 5 coach jumps in with Omar working on my sit. I also got to met HH and told him I would share so here it is. 1. Lock your legs at the 90's and dont move them (of corse there are exceptions...but to begin with lock them down). I've heard headdown people say it before "fly with your legs" well the same applies to sit. Your a badmiton birdie and the most effecient control surfaces are at the top of the birdie. 2. Fly your arms with a 90's at the elbows. This is the big one because now your hands are in position for docks without having to compensate(this also awnsers a previous post on how to grip a headdown person in a 69....cause your arms are there already there no compensation is needed) 3. Use your hands and arms to fly (see #1). Alright I'm kind of a freak cause all my movement came from my lower body, this brings up problems when your trying to dock and you try to use your legs for compensation. I usually ended up corking or backsliding in the dock. I've had a few coach jumps in the past but for sit none were even close to Omar. He watched a jump of mine on video, and before I could even get what I wanted to acheive out of my mouth he showed me on the ground everything I've been trying to learn to do sitting. It was so unreal it felt like he read my mind about everything that I wanted to fix in my sit and then presented me with the tools to fix it and sent me on my way, now all I have to do is get it in my bones and then it's back to AZ in March There was lots more but those were the main points. I went and watched chronicle 2 again and most of what he was doing in sit stand used to go over my head (yea I'm kinda slow) now I can see most of it. Concept is such a beautiful thing. Peace out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #2 January 7, 2003 Thanks Snowflake I have LOADS of freefly experience and some of these tips on the basics are going to help tremedously. It just so happens I'm taking a fairly new Freeflyer out this coming weekend. He can sit already pretty well. I'm going to teach the arm thing you mentioned in #2. I just never thought of it.Thanks again Tim My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #3 January 7, 2003 Thanks for the info John some stuff that supports Omar's tips is here....with pictures and all! http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/aug00/headupflying.htm http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/aug00/headup2.htm http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/aug00/headup3.htm http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/aug00/headup4.htm http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/aug00/headup5.htm also try searching this site for other stuff, its a veritable goldmine. Cya again somewhere, sometime, maybe... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #4 January 7, 2003 yo 27 how do you backup/stop using arms? Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #5 January 7, 2003 Quoteyo 27 how do you backup/stop using arms? keep your legs in the normal wide stance. Lean forward. Air hits your chest you back up. Also the air will tend to hit your shins that will help back you up as well.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #6 January 7, 2003 an easy way of thinking about it is to lead with your chin... you'll backslide like a mother...very good for quickly stopping forward motion too..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #7 January 8, 2003 YOYO #1 I think you can move your arms foreward a bit and tilt the hands up. It's the only thing he didn't show me how to do with my hands/arms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #8 January 8, 2003 Nac one point Omar teaches quite differently that I thought was very important to flying docks. Use your hands for turns. This way your flying to the dock instead of turning your torso which will put you in a slightly unstable postion when you go for the grip . Example 2 people flying faced of in a sit turning 90 hand dock, 180 hand dock, 180 hand dock. using your hands for the turns allows you to stay in the same body position and fly the dock since your arms are bent 90 at the elbow you don't have to really turn your head much to see the dock. Now try it but using your torso for turns you'll need to turn. Then move your torso back then take the grip plus you either have to look up your arm for the grip or reach for the grip which means you have to compensate which makes you less stable. It's just like RW in this position I don't have to reach for grips or look up my arm I fly to the slot and take the grip.With my arms bent 90 my hands are always in my vision so my docks will always be in my vision Don't know if that made sense but I tried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #9 January 9, 2003 "Don't know if that made sense but I tried " Yup that makes sense to me John. Eezee taught me to keep my hands further forward as you describe. My sit flailing improved dramatically afterwards.... Another example of how belly flying tips apply to freeflying Asks any 2D flier how they dock and they will tell you...fly to your slot, stop, dock. As opposed to fly, grab, flail, flutter, stop. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #10 January 9, 2003 Hey Nac - When you coming back to Texas?? Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #11 January 10, 2003 "When you coming back to Texas" I wish I knew an answer to that one Robert, I now have a pretty long term contract here in Scotland, and am trying balance work, skydiving, and the new addition (a "rug rat" ). I really miss the Texas scene, but I gotta put the family first. Hey look at it this way, the Gravity rats are spreading on an international level now.Gravity Haggis anyone? -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
