Viking 0 #1 August 5, 2003 I already have an Aviator but i'm thinking about getting a full face b/c i'm doing more rw by far. I like the freedom of the open face and the kiss pass factor but the face protection during a funnel and warming factor during cross countries is cool as well. I don't even want to bother with the flip up lid fullfaces, to much to break and way to expensive.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 August 5, 2003 Does your head fit in it? That's not a dig, just reality. My head doesn't fit in most helmets.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #3 August 5, 2003 Ya i tried one out in Eloy last year. very comfy. *restrains from making a joke about your oversized noggin*I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #4 August 6, 2003 factory divers are cool, you can pick them up for a really reasonable price used. I like mine, but I think I'll especially like mine come winter (or maybe not if I get too much frosty effect!! ) --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #5 August 6, 2003 I have one that I bought right off student status, and even though I keep it mostly so I can wear my glasses, I still like it. It's very comfortable, protects me, keeps my face from getting cold, and I even freefly with it ALL the time. The only thing I'm missing out on is the kiss passes! She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #6 August 6, 2003 Never tried a factory diver so I don't know anything about em.... but I know my Z1 almost always fogs up under canopy to some degree (the colder the weather the worse it fogs) so I always open it under canopy. Also I don't like landing with it closed... kinda messes with my depth perception I think. Do factory divers allow a lot of wind through? They look like they have a big opening up front. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #7 August 6, 2003 the one i jumped in Eloy on the Cross-country jumps was nice. It didn't have the face shield on it so i just wore my Oakleys. No problem and no squinting either I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #8 August 6, 2003 I've got a Factory Diver. Nice price, good helmet. I do regret not spending the extra cash for an Oxygn or Z1. I don't like the fact you can not flip up the face shield on the Factory Diver.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #9 August 6, 2003 I don't even plan on having the face shield there. just gonna put some shades on.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #10 August 6, 2003 Hi Arthur! I just bought a used one that I will be using the next time that I jump. I will let you know what I think. If I like it, then I will eventually buy a new one. I would sell you my old used one, but we are most likely not the same sizes. I tried on Oxygens, Z1's, Boneheads and two used Factory Divers. The Factory Diver was the only full-faced helmets that fit me pretty well. The Oxygen was the next best fit, but it was too large for my narrow chin and there was too much space between the helmet and the back of my head. Maybe you should also try on a used Oxygen to see what you think. There are always some used full-faces at both Perris and Elsinore's gear stores. ROSA P.S. Sorry that we haven't talked lately, but I really, really have not been feeling well since Sunday night. I am at my parent's home, but I am going to leave soon to go back to my apt. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #11 August 6, 2003 Cool Thanx Rosa I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 August 6, 2003 You might want to check out the Bonehead Havok... the whole front portion of it swings up and down with a very simple locking mechanism. Spendy but I tried one at LP and WOW what a difference Havok I tried a couple of helmets ( ParaSport Z-1 and Panther) with the little button up front you have to push in to release the face shield and found them to be a really hard opener... all while the face shield was getting foggier. Amazon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #13 August 6, 2003 QuoteI don't even plan on having the face shield there. just gonna put some shades on. Just wait 'til you get footprints on your nose as well as the back of your helmet. I know a guy who didn't like face shields until he got a foot in the face. Next week he had a new helmet complete with face shield.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #14 August 6, 2003 hahaha we will see.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #15 August 7, 2003 Ok now i have an offer for an Oxygen.......is it worth the extra money?I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #16 August 7, 2003 Go with whatever really FITS you the best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #17 August 7, 2003 Got one of those too. If you don't use the face shield it's an alright helmet. The flip up feature is weak, ends up ruining your lenses fast....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #18 August 7, 2003 bring it too would ya?I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #19 August 7, 2003 QuoteGot one of those too. If you don't use the face shield it's an alright helmet. The flip up feature is weak, ends up ruining your lenses fast.... That is not my experience. I have had no trouble at all with the flip up lens.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 August 7, 2003 Get one...they are great. I have had an arrowhead, a Factory diver and an Oxygen. I have well over 1500 jumps on the factory diver, and I still use it for tunnel. I jump the Oxygen, but almost never flip up the lens. I only flip it up if it fogs...which is not often, maybe once this year."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #21 August 7, 2003 Ok here are my three choices so far. 1 used black Factory Diver $100 1 Never jumped 300-way Factory Diver $150 1 Never Jumped Oxygen $still waiting on exact price but less than $200 choices choicesI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #22 August 7, 2003 Sure the 300 way helmet is a Factory Diver? I thought (could be wrong) that they were all Oxygen A3's w/ the O2 set up.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #23 August 7, 2003 thats what i thought too. still trying to verify that.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #24 August 7, 2003 I purchased a "never jumped" oxygen from a 300 way participant. I love the helmet, even if I'll never use the O2 set up. $150.00 is a great price for that! I also have a factory diver, but prefer the oxygen by far. I have not had any problems with the flip up mechanism or fogging. I usually leave the lens up until the door light comes on. I don't flip it up during my canopy ride, I've never felt the need to do that. (Fogging has never been an issue for me.) Viking, find a helmet that fits you well. I used to jump my factory diver without the visor and with sunglasses. I lost a few too many pair of sunglasses and got sick of buying new ones, switched to goggles for a while, then put the visor back in for a couple of different reasons. (Including a freefall accident that resulted in a nasty black eye!)Now, I actually prefer the feel of the full face, and the quiet. If your gear store has a demo program, I would try as many different helmets as you can before you buy. Everyone is different, and the helmet that fits me best may not work for you. blues...... maura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #25 August 8, 2003 Well i decided to go with the never jumped 300-way Factory diver. It fit a little snug but thats the way its supposed to be i guess. I understand that it will get looser as the padding compress'I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
