nesher 0 #1 July 23, 2003 hi everybody u have 25 jumps and im thinking on buying a personal equipment. i only found one rigg that i can afford: racer (year and a half old), main - hornet 170 (20 jumps), cypress, rezerve - Tempo 150( never opend). i jump only 4 times a month untill the end of the year. than ill start twice as much. if ill save my money i could buy a new equipment in a year from now. what should i do? thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #2 July 23, 2003 Well I'll give you my opinion, for what it's worth: affordability should never be the main factor when looking for kit - this is your life that you're playing with remember. Look at the rig as if price were no object, is it well suited to your needs, your experience and your skills? If not don't buy it. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #3 July 23, 2003 while I agree that you shouldnt buy a rig not suited for you just because the price is nice. I do however have to put in that affordability was one of my main factors in buying my rig. Let's face it, some people just don't have the money to spend 2+ thousand dollars on a rig. I put together a reliable, safe rig for 700 dollars. The harness, main, and reserve fit, granted its not color coordinated, but it works. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #4 July 23, 2003 While this may look to you like a deal, you haven't looked nearly long enough. Given the description, you may very well be able to find usable gear more suited to a new skydiver for less money. The 170 may very well be too small for all but the smallest students as a first canopy. Depends on somewhat on what your size is. An older, larger, servicable rig may be better for learning the details of canopy flight in varying conditions. This sounds, with out knowing anything about you, more like a second, or even third rig. That's about all the advice we can give with out knowing details about you and what you've been trained on and price of the rig. While some disagree, buying new gear as your first rig is not a good idea in my opinion. You'll push the size down, thinking you can "grow" (in experience) into it. One or two down size steps between student and a rig appropriate for several hundred jumps it common. We have a number of used rigs around our DZ that have been through several owners as good starting rigs. Every year or two they're passed down (sold) to the next new skydiver.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rendezvous 0 #5 July 23, 2003 I my opinion you can hold off on a new rig at this point or next year. For now get something that is affordable and air worthy. Something that will last you 200 plus jumps.You'll find a lot of such rigs up for sale. Look for affordability within the limits of your safety and experience. Save the money that you would otherwise spend on a new rig and spend it instead on jumping. As for jumping 4 times a month, well, what really matters is how many times are you going to rent the equipment for it if that is what you are planning to do. You'll need to work that cost out and see if it makes sense to rent that many times vs just going along with a second hand rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #6 July 23, 2003 What do you weigh? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nesher 0 #7 July 24, 2003 i weight about 66 kg. my height is 1.72 meters. i live in israel and we have only one dz. most of the second hand riggs are expensive and i cant afford them. every jump i have to pay 20$ to rent a rigg and student riggs as you know are big. i have 2 choices: 1. buy the rigg that i wrote in the begining - and than try to sell it - i understand that racer is pretty hard to sell. 2. i will move to Los Angeles next july, so i could buy there a new rigg. what do you think i should do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #8 July 24, 2003 I weigh 65kg. I went from a student rig with a 270 to a sports rig with a 170. This is at a cessna DZ, so there is quite a bit of oversight from the DZSO and other instructors. I currently have a Racer with a Sabre 150.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #9 July 24, 2003 If you weigh 66 KG and you add around 10 KG for rig, suit, helmet etc. you end up at around 165 - 170 Pounds. So you would load the Hornet at a 1:1 WL which is not too bad for most, depending on your training and skills. I do not know the Hornet well and do not know how "aggressive" they fly / how they open and if appropriate for your jump numbers. I would say you should be more concerned about the reserve. A F-111 150 loaded at 1.1 - 1.2 might be a little small. Have you discussed this with your local instructors?--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #10 July 24, 2003 I can't tell you what to do. I can tell you your choices in gear will be much greater in the US, and that on a 170 your wing loading will be under 1 piund per square foot. I don't think its worth you buying gear if you're doing only 4 jumps a month. Pay rig hire and do more dives. Time will reveal more answers. Good luck, tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBKid 0 #11 July 24, 2003 As a newbie skydiver you're obviously just starting to explore all the stuff you can do in the sky, and while you may be happy on your belly at the moment, while you get better at it, beware of the temptation to try "just the one" sit of head-down jump. If the cheap gear you've bought isn't suitable for this type of flying you could end up in a whole heap of trouble. Just something to bear in mind. Nick --------------------------- "I've pierced my foot on a spike!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #12 July 24, 2003 Look at my profile. I'm not a newbie, and my gear is freefly safe. Is this a case of mistaken identity perhaps? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #13 July 24, 2003 and do you think you can freefly with 3900+ jumps ??? you newbie, you... think he wnated to reply not to U but to the 25 jumps boy who is looking for the rig... my advice is like Tonto's... hire a rig, wait and see... and then when you have some more money get something which really suits you---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #14 July 24, 2003 Freefly? I really am a newbie there! I'm OK on my head, but I struggle on my feet - and most of the hot tips I've got have been from former AFF students of mine! We're all learning! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
