Has anyone had the priviledge to get a ride on a Smart reserve??

[kitof1976 0]

I was just wondering if anyone has a new smart reserve in their container and had to use it yet.
I have have one of them I would love to hear some feedbacks on the opening and flight characteristics from someone that got to experience it first hand.

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[ChileRelleno 0]

Dude, you have a reserve in your rig that you never at least demo'd or jumped once or twice as a main? Take that sucker or another (preferably yours) for a ride so you have some idea for yourself as to its characteristics.

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Dude, you have a reserve in your rig that you never at least demo'd or jumped once or twice as a main? Take that sucker or another (preferably yours) for a ride so you have some idea for yourself as to its characteristics.

Does the Smart have a bridle attachment point? I know many reserves do not, so it may be difficult for the average jumper to get canopy time with their reserves, until they have a cutaway.

What reserve do you have? How many jumps did you put on it before you put it into your rig?

[andy2 0]

[QUOTE]What reserve do you have? How many jumps did you put on it before you put it into your rig?
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Just to clarify he was talking about contacting the manufacturer and asking for a reserve to demo as a main for a few jumps to get to know the flight characteristics. Im sure the reserve the manufacturer would send you would have a bridle attachment point mod put on. It's illegal to jump your reserve as a main and then use it as a reserve... you probably know this, but just clarifying...

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[ChileRelleno 0]

I do not know if the Smart reserve has a bridle attachment or not. No bridle no problem, just freebag it on a 2100ft hop-n-pop on a no wind day or choose your exit/opening point carefully.
I have a Tempo 210 loaded @ 1:2+:1 which I jumped once, I know one jump is not enough to really "know" the canopies characteristics.
But it was alot better when I actually used it as a reserve (ya I took reserve ride on it) than the time I found myself under a 26 lopo round reserve with only the most basic knowledge of steering it and making a PLF (talk about tense).

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[Hooknswoop 19]

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It's illegal to jump your reserve as a main and then use it as a reserve

BSR or FAR for that?

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[andy2 0]

[QUOTE]BSR or FAR for that? [/QUOTE]

FAR Sec 105.3:

"Reserve parachute means an approved parachute worn for emergency
use to be activated only upon failure of the main parachute or in any
other emergency where use of the main parachute is impractical or use
of the main parachute would increase risk."

I take that to mean the parachute's only function would be to be packed into your reserve tray and used as an emergency. I guess if you packed it as a main you could legally jump it, but then you couldn't repack it as your reserve as it would of then be used in a non-emergency situation, voiding it as a reserve parachute. Did I read that right?

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[Zenister 0]

doesnt that FAR apply to the 'conduct' of any given skydive? ie you must have a reserve that is "an approved parachute worn for emergency use to be activated only upon failure of the main parachute" for that particular dive.

having used the 'approved parachute' as a main before does not change its current use as a reserve.

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What that FAR means is that you cannot deploy your reserve -on that jump-unless it is needed for an actual emergency. On any intentional parachute jump, you must carry a dedicated reserve parachute to be used only in the event of a main malfunction.

You can use a reserve as a main and then return it to use as a reserve, as long as it is okay with the canopy manufacturer. I know the ravens can be used as a main or reserve. Just because you've used your reserve as a main for a few jumps doesn't necessarily mean it cannot be employed as a reserve again.

In fact, it's probably a good idea to air out a new reserve and see how it flies before you pack it away. At least it's better than having a low cutaway and only being in the saddle at 700 feet, which is not really a good place to discover the flight characteristics of your PD 113. I just don't know how many jumpers actually do this. Certainly the minority.

If you do decide to jump your reserve, it's easy enough to jump it as a main, again, I just don't know many jumpers who would go through the trouble of doing this.

I just disagree with the tone of the original reply which suggests that it's a horrible situation to have a packed reserve you've never been under. I've never been under my current reserve and I definitely don't see a problem with that.

Andy2, bridle attachment points are typically constructed into the parachute as it's being built. Retro-fitting a bridle attachment would mean deconstructing the canopy and then adding the attachment point later.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

edit: typo

[Hooknswoop 19]

§105.3 Definitions.

That section lists the definitions of words used in the Part. It doesn't say that you can't pack a reserve as a reserve and a reserve as a main and go jump it. Then pack the jumped (as a main) reserve as a reserve. The FAA doesn't say that if an approved canopy is used as a main that it is disqualified from use as a reserve. It is an (another of many) area that the FAA doesn't address.

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[riggerrob 643]

Precision - and a few other manufacturers - encourage skydivers to make one or two intentional jumps with their new reserves - packed into main containers, to familiarize themselves with how the reserve flies.
Once those familiarization jumps have been done, a rigger should inspect the reserve canopy to ensure that it is still in "like new" condition, then pack it into the reserve container.
One or two jumps does not magically "invalidate" a reserve canopy.
There are three reasons why few people test jump their reserves. First, they are not willing to pay riggers for their time.
Secondly, they are not willing to go through the hassle of retrieving the (free-floating) main d-bag and pilotchute from the weeds. This is because few reserves have bridle attachments sewn in at the factory and it is an expensive job to do after the fact.
Thirdly, most skydivers are secretly afraid that they bought too small a reserve. Few of them realize how radically the landing characteristics of tiny 7-cell rectangular reserves differ from the latest high-tech, sort-of-elliptical, zero-p, cross-braced, air-locked, etc. main canopies.

[tattoojeff 0]

i'll second that zenister. chile sounds a little over excited about never jumping your reserve. i doubt many of us have? although it is a good idea