biomath 0 #1 June 25, 2003 Hi Everyone, I need some advice. I bit the bullet and ordered my first set of gear (container, main, reserve, Cypres2). The gear shop is known for great customer service. They were really helpful in guiding me through all the components and options. The rig came in early so of course there had to be a bit of bad news to balance out the good: instead of all stainless the rig only had stainless on the three rings, not the chest and hip rings. The nice lady at the shop said that it was her mistake. She suggested that the shop would refund the price of the stainless chest and hip ring option. So here are my questions: do I make the shop pay for the modifications to the harness to put the stainless in, or is that unreasonably nasty? The rig being out of commission for a while is no problem as the main is not in yet. I already have a deal for free rentals until the rig is ready. Also, would switching the rings weaken the harness? I know it would still be safe or else the rigger wouldn't do it; I'm wondering if the work would shorten the life of the harness. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Mike Extra information: the rig is a Talon 3 with a Sabre2 190 and a PD-Reserve176. And yes, I'm totally stoked about finally getting my own stuff that will fit just right. No more jumping whatever is available for rental/ crappy student gear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #2 June 25, 2003 Stainless is to look pretty basically. How important is looking shiney? If every time you look at it, its going to bother you fix it, other wise put the money on account and jump. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #3 June 25, 2003 Also, would switching the rings weaken the harness? I know it would still be safe or else the rigger wouldn't do it; I'm wondering if the work would shorten the life of the harness. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing chest and hip rings requires shipping the rig back to Rigging Innovations. They will install new stainless steel hardware with new webbing. That is about a US$300 job. So - in short - the harness will not be weakened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #4 June 25, 2003 Mike, You just spent $4000 or there about, get the damn thing the way you want it. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #5 June 25, 2003 "The rig being out of commission for a while is no problem as the main is not in yet. I already have a deal for free rentals until the rig is ready." That to me is the cincher, your not being put out by any delays, you wanted stainless, so send it back in. Unless you fancy spending the 300 bucks on a new helmet/dytter/etc, and can cut an even better deal meantime..... The stainless does look very nice though.....I'm glad I got it on my Javelin.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydive84 0 #6 June 25, 2003 QuoteStainless is to look pretty basically. How important is looking shiney? reply] U underestimate the power of the shiney ring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #7 June 27, 2003 QuoteAlso, would switching the rings weaken the harness? I know it would still be safe or else the rigger wouldn't do it; I'm wondering if the work would shorten the life of the harness. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing chest and hip rings requires shipping the rig back to Rigging Innovations. They will install new stainless steel hardware with new webbing, since it is quicker to cut off the old harness than to un-pick all the stitching. That is about a US$300 job. So - in short - the harness will not be weakened. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To clarify .... Since the dealer made the mistake, they should pay for the harness re-work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkySlut 0 #8 June 27, 2003 Do you ever plan on doing beach jumps or any jumps that may potentially involve getting your rig wet a lot??? If so I would go with the stainless, it prevents rust which can wear through the webbing. Thats all bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #9 June 27, 2003 Have the gear shop fix "Their" mistake and at no cost to you. Get it the way you want it, the way you payed for it! ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bmcd308 0 #10 June 27, 2003 I agree absolutely. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
PhreeZone 20 #2 June 25, 2003 Stainless is to look pretty basically. How important is looking shiney? If every time you look at it, its going to bother you fix it, other wise put the money on account and jump. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #3 June 25, 2003 Also, would switching the rings weaken the harness? I know it would still be safe or else the rigger wouldn't do it; I'm wondering if the work would shorten the life of the harness. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing chest and hip rings requires shipping the rig back to Rigging Innovations. They will install new stainless steel hardware with new webbing. That is about a US$300 job. So - in short - the harness will not be weakened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #4 June 25, 2003 Mike, You just spent $4000 or there about, get the damn thing the way you want it. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #5 June 25, 2003 "The rig being out of commission for a while is no problem as the main is not in yet. I already have a deal for free rentals until the rig is ready." That to me is the cincher, your not being put out by any delays, you wanted stainless, so send it back in. Unless you fancy spending the 300 bucks on a new helmet/dytter/etc, and can cut an even better deal meantime..... The stainless does look very nice though.....I'm glad I got it on my Javelin.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydive84 0 #6 June 25, 2003 QuoteStainless is to look pretty basically. How important is looking shiney? reply] U underestimate the power of the shiney ring Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #7 June 27, 2003 QuoteAlso, would switching the rings weaken the harness? I know it would still be safe or else the rigger wouldn't do it; I'm wondering if the work would shorten the life of the harness. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing chest and hip rings requires shipping the rig back to Rigging Innovations. They will install new stainless steel hardware with new webbing, since it is quicker to cut off the old harness than to un-pick all the stitching. That is about a US$300 job. So - in short - the harness will not be weakened. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To clarify .... Since the dealer made the mistake, they should pay for the harness re-work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkySlut 0 #8 June 27, 2003 Do you ever plan on doing beach jumps or any jumps that may potentially involve getting your rig wet a lot??? If so I would go with the stainless, it prevents rust which can wear through the webbing. Thats all bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #9 June 27, 2003 Have the gear shop fix "Their" mistake and at no cost to you. Get it the way you want it, the way you payed for it! ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bmcd308 0 #10 June 27, 2003 I agree absolutely. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
riggerrob 643 #7 June 27, 2003 QuoteAlso, would switching the rings weaken the harness? I know it would still be safe or else the rigger wouldn't do it; I'm wondering if the work would shorten the life of the harness. Thanks for your advice. Regards, Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacing chest and hip rings requires shipping the rig back to Rigging Innovations. They will install new stainless steel hardware with new webbing, since it is quicker to cut off the old harness than to un-pick all the stitching. That is about a US$300 job. So - in short - the harness will not be weakened. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To clarify .... Since the dealer made the mistake, they should pay for the harness re-work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkySlut 0 #8 June 27, 2003 Do you ever plan on doing beach jumps or any jumps that may potentially involve getting your rig wet a lot??? If so I would go with the stainless, it prevents rust which can wear through the webbing. Thats all bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #9 June 27, 2003 Have the gear shop fix "Their" mistake and at no cost to you. Get it the way you want it, the way you payed for it! ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #10 June 27, 2003 I agree absolutely. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
