billvon 3,107 #1 June 3, 2003 Put a few more jumps on a Pilot last weekend, this time a 132, which is considerably closer to my 'normal' canopy (Safire 119.) Not much different than the Pilot 150, which (to summarize): -Amazing openings -Strong non-PD flare (i.e. there's flare all the way down the stroke) -Good glide -Responsive on toggles, similar to a Sabre2 -Not very ground hungry in turns; flat turns are easy -Very little response to front riser manuevers, both during turn and in double fronts. I can see this as both a plus and a minus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #2 June 4, 2003 what are you wing loading it at? later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #3 June 4, 2003 132 at around 1.5 to 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 June 4, 2003 No one answered my question last time, so I'm going to ask it again. How does it compare to the old Hornet?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #5 June 4, 2003 >How does it compare to the old Hornet? Dunno, I never jumped a Hornet. No one here seems to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #6 June 4, 2003 If you want, you can jump mine at WFFC.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #7 June 4, 2003 Bill - how difficult was it to get a demo of this canopy? I would be interested in seeing how it compares at a lower wingload (between 1 and 1.3), since I'm thinking that is more in the typical market for that canopy (i.e. intermediate canopy, newer jumpers like myself, lower wingload).Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #8 June 4, 2003 >If you want, you can jump mine at WFFC. You're on. What size is it? If you want I will trade canopies with you for a day; you'll have a choice of a Safire 119, Tri-135, Sabre 150 or Silhouette 170. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #9 June 4, 2003 >Bill - how difficult was it to get a demo of this canopy? I walked into Sq1 and said "Frank, I'm taking the Pilot 132 demo." I don't know how tough it would be at a normal DZ. >I would be interested in seeing how it compares at a lower wingload > (between 1 and 1.3), since I'm thinking that is more in the typical >market for that canopy (i.e. intermediate canopy, newer jumpers like > myself, lower wingload). I jumped the Pilot 150 loaded at 1.3 to 1, and it performed very nicely. More aggressive than a Triathalon of the same size, a bit more aggressive than a Spectre, not quite as sensitive as a Sabre2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sangiro 26 #10 June 4, 2003 Bill, If you have some time, drop your review in the gear database as well. I know there are lots of questions about the new canopies and it would be good to start building a bit of a frame of reference.Safe swoops Sangiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites