sinjin 0 #1 July 20, 2007 I am buying a new laptop and would like to know if the video card plays any role in capturing, editing, and eventual output. i have to buy a laptop and cant go desktop. i will not be playing games on it. i would rather pay for other things (hd space, GHZ, ) computer if the video card will not impact my editing. i will be getting an external HD to store the video btw. thanksdont let life pass you by Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #2 July 20, 2007 Some NLE applications can take advantage of certain types of processing (Open GL), although most don't. For DV and HDV, there is little benefit to worrying about a vid card; laptop components are generally fine. Overall, gaming needs more resources by far than a vid card. One of my very old machines is still running a pair of S3 vid cards! Bear in mind that off-the-shelf laptops are often not ready for editing serious vid without some changes under the hood. Most of them come so loaded with garbage apps that you'll want to spend half a day cleaning house, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinjin 0 #3 July 20, 2007 what changes under the hood do you recommend. ??my budget is limited but i am trying to get Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor T7300 (2.00 GHz, 4 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB, 4mb cache L2, 2gdb ddr2 ram, and 160 hd (5400, although trying to get a 7200) with an external for storage. will that be enough to get by ??? it is for my own use right now and not really intending it for commercial or DZ use. thanks again for everyones help in advancedont let life pass you by Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #4 July 20, 2007 That'll be plenty for both day to day and editing. Once you have the computer in hand, you'll quickly find what apps you don't need. Crap like the mood generator, more than one accounting tool, etc. Personally, I'm not a fan of anti-virus, but unless you're very diligent and careful about where you go, you'll probably want it active. Antivirus and video editing don't go hand in hand at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #5 July 20, 2007 Buy anything but an integrated videochip (intel etc) and you'll be fine. 7200rpm for a laptop hd is not necessary, as the harddrive is smaller. Any duo processor is fine (dual core, core2 duo, amdx2 - cheaper!), 2gb ram, a largish harddrive and definately buy an external drive to store your video on, always store the video on another drive than your windows is on anyway. Don't forget you need firewire, not all laptops seem to have firewire so check for it. And the more usb2 ports the better. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #6 July 20, 2007 Quote Antivirus and video editing don't go hand in hand at all. Interesting statement that I know nothing about - can you elaborate please?Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #7 July 20, 2007 Quote Quote Antivirus and video editing don't go hand in hand at all. Interesting statement that I know nothing about - can you elaborate please? I'd agree with: Norton and any hard work for the pc do not go hand in hand ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #8 July 20, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Antivirus and video editing don't go hand in hand at all. Interesting statement that I know nothing about - can you elaborate please? I'd agree with: Norton and any hard work for the pc do not go hand in hand e•lab•o•rate: 1) to add details to; expand. 2) to add details in writing, speaking, etc.; give additional or fuller treatment (usually fol. by on or upon): to elaborate upon a theme or an idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #9 July 20, 2007 Virus scans can occaisonally use a lot of resources. It could screw up your video editing if it started scanning while you are trying to render to vob or avi file. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #10 July 20, 2007 Picture this: Antivirus wants to look at every bit/byte of information coming in/going out/being generated by your computer. So... You have a TSA officer sitting inside your computer. Guy walks by, TSA checks his ID. Guy walks by the other way, TSA checks his ID. Guy walks by with his tools, TSA checks his ID. Guy builds a sawhorse with his tools, TSA checks his ID and the ID of the sawhorse. Now multiply that scenario with thousands or millions of guys walking by that same TSA guy, but it's still just one TSA guy. That's antivirus. It slows down the video editing (and any other large function process) to the point of being virtually unusable. FWIW, with nearly 30 active machines in our facility, maybe 2 of them have antivirus installed/operable. They are all turned on full time, all can access the 'net, no problems. I'm a much better antivirus than Norton could ever be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 July 20, 2007 AV works by scanning all files as they are created or even opened for write. Every time you go to move a clip around on a time line the program is actually creating small temp files of the video so it is able to display to you the video you are editing. As it goes to write the files AV needs to stop it from writing, scan the entire file, verify that it is clean then allow the program to write it. If you are rendering its even worse since you might be opening hundreds of little clips to assemble into one larger clip and it has to scan each one of the little files before allowing the next step of work to occur on it. Home version of the apps are the worst. The business editions tend to be a lot better in terms of correctly using the CPU to scan but even then I disable mine when its time to edit or render. Use a utility like Filemon sometime and you'll se your AV process engaging everytime you move a file in the time line, it just eats CPU cycles that could be better used editing.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #12 July 20, 2007 Thanks guys, that gives me a good understanding. In that past, when I have ran bigger professional setups I have always preferred 2 LANs, kind of like what Douglass is describing, one LAN for the machines on the production line that is isolated and not online, then the business LAN that is protected and online. Now I am a small operation working out of my home office with only a few machines, a single LAN for all. I will begin to disable my VS whenever I work, but oddly enough I have not noticed any problems with performance so far running the entire Adobe CS and 3DS MAX. Maybe I am just not used to these faster machines that run light years ahead of what I had for the past 6 years. I recently bought some late model configurations and the speed really allows for the creativity to flow, now if I could just find a way to be creative! Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #13 July 20, 2007 I like my way of telling it better. I'd forgotten about Filemon, thanks for the refresh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #14 July 20, 2007 Quote Home version of the apps are the worst. The business editions tend to be a lot better in terms of correctly using the CPU to scan but even then I disable mine when its time to edit or render. I rarely have to edit video at work, but also for other stuff an AV can be very annoying. We keep having problems with CA's antivirus, It's a pain in the $%^& sometimes. Sometimes it blocks documents from being printed, seemingly randomly, causing timeouts and even crashes. And we print large documents a LOT. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 July 20, 2007 Thats because its CA software. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #16 July 20, 2007 Quote Thats because its CA software. Meh, I spent 6 yrs programming in CA Ideal, that wasn't too bad, they should've stuck to mainframe software Oh. Right. They discontinued Ideal ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
