mrhoop 0 #1 March 5, 2004 Should you put you chin close to you chest before you deploy. My harness is tight and I have been doing this to keep my risers from hitting a side mount camera. Any comments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayCool 0 #2 March 5, 2004 If you do that you can't see your canopy and if you get some good line twist your head can be trapped down there in front of your risers. Not a nice place to be on a perforance canopy! Also if you have a hard opening this will put a lot of stain on your neck especially if you have a topmounted SLR or something. Try this -Sit your head back so you can see your deployment and lift your shoulders up to create a support for your head and neck for the initial part of the opening. You can see whats going on and this is a very supportive neck position. It is also symmetrical for on heading openings. This works for me! Cheers Stay Cool http://www.waycool.com.au Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrhoop 0 #3 March 5, 2004 WayCool that is some good info. I have not had line twists in a long time. I have made 73 round parachute jumps and line twists was't a landing problem. Ican see if your risers pin your head down there can be a real problem. Should I keep me head in the normal position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 March 5, 2004 As the d-bag comes out of the container, I begin to sit up and shift my ring-sight to the horizon in an attempt to have my head, neck and back in a straight line as the canopy opens. I feel that this gives the best protection against neck strains, but obviously, this might not work for you. It does work well for me. No matter what your body position, you want to get your hands on your risers as quickly as possible between the time you deploy and full inflation. An additional benefit of looking toward the horizon during inflation is that in this head level position, you can watch out for team members doing short tracks and high openings. Individual team members probably have more than enough separation from each other, but if one dumps a little high and you maybe have a little bit longer snivel and they have a 180 opening, well, it can get interesting and you need to react pretty damn fast. Looking out toward the horizon lets you see what might be coming up to meet you, and you may even be able to shift your weight during inflation to avoid it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayCool 0 #5 March 5, 2004 As Quade says getting hold of your risers fast is also important and with a little practice you can learn to guide your risers around your helmet before you swing vertical with canopy inflation. You can keep your head level if you like, I just find it comfortable and supportive in the position I said earlier. For me it is important to watch my deploying canopy as well as headings and traffic, it helps you learn a lot about canopy deployment and heading control which is a very useful skill for all parachuting applications. Stay Cool http://www.waycool.com.au Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chachi 0 #6 March 5, 2004 I agree with these guys. On my openings as soon as I start to sit up I grab my risers and watch my deployment. I have had no major neck strains doing this and it allows me to police the opening if necessary. I got my head pinned on line twists on my very first camera jump and let me tell you, it is not a fun place to be. ~Chachi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #7 March 5, 2004 QuoteShould you put you chin close to you chest before you deploy. No. Your neck takes stresses and shocks best when it is not extended in any direction. Hold your head in relation to your torso as you would naturaly on the ground. If you get a hard opening your head and neck will be in line with your spine, and reduce the chance for injury. Putting your chin to your chest places your neck and spine in a vunerable position for injury. Try this sitting in your chair. Hold your head and neck upright in a natural position. Now jerk your head downward a few inches. Your neck absorbs the shock easily. Now try it but touch your chin to your chest first, then jerk downward. Now the shock is transmited to your lower back. I do know of some people who "brace" their helmet with their hands after they throw out, but I'd rather be on the risers.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #8 March 6, 2004 QuotePutting your chin to your chest places your neck and spine in a vunerable position for injury. I agree with this anaysis. Puts a cameraflyer at risk for a herniated disc (which likes to herniate posteriorly anyway. You just "helped" it out even more with a chin down position!). ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #9 March 6, 2004 Maybe I'm wierd or something but I don't do anything differen't when I have my camera on. I just keep my eyes on the horizon.....as the canopy leaves the bag and stands me up I keep my head in the same position which lets me watch the snivel. Hands go to the risers. I've got at least two openings on my Mardi Gras video. I remember when I first got my camera I was paranoid and would turn my head sideways with the camera towards the earth to avoid a "riser strike." After not too many jumps I found that this was unecessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlvaroCarvalho 0 #10 March 6, 2004 Hello all! Great posts! More info HERE Blue skies! Hey...ho...let's go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jkbasejumper 0 #11 March 7, 2004 ok this is my personal experience: i have never had the risers hit my side mounted camera except when i jumped a rig that was not sized for me ie. the yolk being to small also like stated above going into a sit posistion helps with the hard openings.the type of canopy you are jumping and body posistion also play a huge roll in riser strike in my opinion the two best canopies for camera flight are the pd spectre and the icarus crossfire.but like i said this is just my own personal experience so flaming is not welcome ha ha!! blue skies, jason kennonbig country base998 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apley 0 #12 March 24, 2004 excellent video and dub, buddy... i broke my leg last summer and my video skills have gone to shit. i lost my discipline in keeping my subjects in frame. still trying to hold still and forget about participating in the fun parts of the jump so much. i've even been thinking of shunning the cam for a while and just playing like everyone else. i'm too afraid of missing a good shot, though... anyway, i enjoyed the vid and wanted to let you know. choppin chuckee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #13 March 24, 2004 QuoteIf you do that you can't see your canopy and if you get some good line twist your head can be trapped down there in front of your risers. Not a nice place to be on a perforance canopy! its the only way i want my neck trapped if it should.. You have muscles in your neck but not much in your troth(sorry if i name wrong here but i thing you unmder stand).Youy will faster be struggled the way you describe,which means you´ll loose conciuness and cant fix the problem.. I do as the first jumper describes,i can feel if i have line twists,i can feel if i have any other mals.Its about knowing your openings. Only thing is sure is that you want to help some of the force away from your neck by stabilizing it.. Either if you do it on the fron or back is up to you i guess.. just me,lucky im getting a vbullet cam and dont have to worry that much anymore Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
