ZoneRat 0 #1 February 1, 2004 A buddy of mine's leaving town tuesday. He's got an extra camera set up that he's willing to sell me: ~Sidewinder helmet with the lense removed. ~4.5 yr old PC-7. ~7 batteries. 4 are x-tra life. All approx 2 yrs old. ~Newton ring site. Not the Orange one. Another one. ~He'll even throw in an old Skytronic just so I don't have to switch audibles in and out. 700.00. I mostly want to use the helmet to film (gratis) any coaching jumps I do with the young-uns. (Video is SO precious to new jumpers)! Jumps with friends, etc. In time, I'm not opposed to doing tandem video, but that's something I'd grow into only to help out if the DZ's short *real* camera folk. Still, ya never know. I'm not out to screw this guy. Pretty sure he's not out to screw me. I'm just curious if you folk feel that this represents fair value. I appreciate anything you experienced folk have to offer on this.“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 February 1, 2004 It would depend -a LOT- on the condition of the equipment and how well it has been maintained. 4.5 years of jumping camera could be quite a bit and that camera -could- be pretty trashed. Not nessasarily the exterior, but the mechanical parts inside could be just barely living. Do you have a feel for how well it actually works?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoneRat 0 #3 February 1, 2004 Thanks for responding, Quade. Nope. I've never seen it.I have no idea how well it might or might not work. Jeesh... what should I look for? Shoot some stuff and play it back I guess. 4.5 years seems like a long life for a mini DV. Does the rest of the stuff make up for the fact that the camera is likely on it's last leg? He'll sell me the helmet alone for 125.00... He's put 500 jumps on it. It's gone in the shop twice. Once because the touch-screen had problems and once because a wire needed repair. It's never fogged up. Thats all I know. He strikes me as the kind of person that takes ~average~ care of his stuff. Stand up landings. Wouldn't leave it out overnight. Probably kept it on the table in his trailer most of it's life... On one hand I hate to put our friendship in a spot to where if there was a problem - it would be a problem. On the other. It sounds like it may be a win/ win.... and I like those. Are the PC-7's known for being especially robust? Or problematic? Just not sure what to do here.“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 February 1, 2004 Ask him if you can jump it for a day and see if you like the helmet and if everything works. One thing I've especially noticed on cameras I've worn out is that they've had a tendacy to show problems first on the last portion of the video tape. I'm not really certain why that is, maybe it has something to do with timing of the reels or not enough power to drag the tape, whatever, but that would be one of the places I would check. Wind the tape to maybe the last 10 minutes, turn the camera off, take the tape out, put the tape back in and try to record something. Then, try to play it back. Then shake the camera like you're shaking up a beer for a "friend" and see if that does anything to it. Also . . . If he values the helmet and parts at $150 and is willing to sell you it with the camera for $700, then . . . geeze, I might just take the helmet and ditch the camera. You can get a brand spanking new TRV19 for about $450. http://shopper.cnet.com/4014-6500_9-20794197.html?tag=ob_50&orderby=50&sort=ascquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoneRat 0 #5 February 1, 2004 Quade. I owe you a beer. Thank you.“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imdskydiver 0 #6 February 1, 2004 geeze, I might just take the helmet and ditch the camera. You can get a brand spanking new TRV19 for about $450. Quote Bad idea , The Sidewinder is camera specific . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #7 February 1, 2004 Flippin' A -- good catch. If it's so camera specific that it will ONLY accommodate the other camera, I'd probably stay away from it altogether. I never really understood the concept of building a camera helmet that couldn't deal with different cameras.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites theskydiveguy 0 #8 February 1, 2004 PC style cameras used sell for $500 + typically. $700 including the helmet and audible isn't a bad deal if you ask me. Now of course I am not the expert in this field but I am an avid shopper . Just price it all out new and decide if it's worth the investment. ~Jeff Monkey Brother #1 http://www.monkeybrothers.ca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #9 February 2, 2004 QuoteI never really understood the concept of building a camera helmet that couldn't deal with different cameras. Me either. I like the extra real estate. Oh yeah, the Sidewinder is not designed to acommodate a stills camera, and the angle for the video camera is fixed (and at an angle I'm not comfortable with).---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dsbbreck 0 #10 February 2, 2004 QuotePC style cameras used sell for $500 + typically. I would pay that much for a used PC, but not if was a Used Skydiving PC. Skydiving is a lot of abuse on a camera. My PC just took a dump at 3 1/2 years. Cost to much to fix it. Just a bought a new TRV22 for $500. It has all the features my PC100 had.David "Socrates wasn't killed because he had the answer.......he was killed because he asked the question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites theskydiveguy 0 #11 February 2, 2004 Fair enough, but with all the accessories (batteries etc) I don't think the price is unfair? ~Jeff Monkey Brother #1 http://www.monkeybrothers.ca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
quade 4 #7 February 1, 2004 Flippin' A -- good catch. If it's so camera specific that it will ONLY accommodate the other camera, I'd probably stay away from it altogether. I never really understood the concept of building a camera helmet that couldn't deal with different cameras.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theskydiveguy 0 #8 February 1, 2004 PC style cameras used sell for $500 + typically. $700 including the helmet and audible isn't a bad deal if you ask me. Now of course I am not the expert in this field but I am an avid shopper . Just price it all out new and decide if it's worth the investment. ~Jeff Monkey Brother #1 http://www.monkeybrothers.ca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 February 2, 2004 QuoteI never really understood the concept of building a camera helmet that couldn't deal with different cameras. Me either. I like the extra real estate. Oh yeah, the Sidewinder is not designed to acommodate a stills camera, and the angle for the video camera is fixed (and at an angle I'm not comfortable with).---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsbbreck 0 #10 February 2, 2004 QuotePC style cameras used sell for $500 + typically. I would pay that much for a used PC, but not if was a Used Skydiving PC. Skydiving is a lot of abuse on a camera. My PC just took a dump at 3 1/2 years. Cost to much to fix it. Just a bought a new TRV22 for $500. It has all the features my PC100 had.David "Socrates wasn't killed because he had the answer.......he was killed because he asked the question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theskydiveguy 0 #11 February 2, 2004 Fair enough, but with all the accessories (batteries etc) I don't think the price is unfair? ~Jeff Monkey Brother #1 http://www.monkeybrothers.ca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
