spencer 0 #1 December 23, 2003 when I slow motion some footage on my camcorder and capture it and then add some soundtrack onto timeline, when the slow motion starts I loose all sound. I have tried the slow motion on premiere down to say 40% but the picture goes grainy on premiere's monitor so I tried to slow mo on cam instead. Any idea's anyone??. Eddie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyfly 0 #2 December 23, 2003 What camera are you using (I assume you refer to one of the digital effects that exist on the sony camcorders ...) ? How do you capture it ? where do you position your "background music" ? is it set to playback?Be Simple, Be Creative, Bee! Sharon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #3 December 23, 2003 the camera is a pc101 and all I do is while it's being captured on premiere I press slow on the camcorder remote and then play to resume normal speed. I then add audio to time line , but when I play them together the music stops when the slow motion starts. Hope this helps Eddie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyfly 0 #4 December 23, 2003 how do you capture ? using Firewire ? I take it you dont use the Premiere Camera DV Control interface (if you're able to press the slow on the camera) ? what happens if you play the clip that you captured with the camera "slow mo" (not from the timeline) in Premiere ? do you get any audio? does it play normally ?Be Simple, Be Creative, Bee! Sharon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #5 December 23, 2003 I use the firewire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyfly 0 #6 December 23, 2003 If you ARE using the firewire, let premiere control the camcorder, and import the footage without you pressing any buttons on the camera - premiere (and any other NLE software) imports the footage digitally (using the firewire) and not only does it captures the images and audio from the tape- but also the timecode. pressing on any of the cameras buttons (slow...and whatever) only interferes with the capture (to be honest - I'm quite surprised that premiere didnt stop the capture process, or notified on any errors - alas I cannot recreate this scenario since I stopped using Premiere 2 years ago - but the concept still holds) baically - let premiere capture the footage without pressing any buttons on the camera. that's what NLE is ALL ABOUT - NON LINEAR!!! Capture - edit and apply effects , then export - thats how its meant to be, any attempt to interfere with this process - and I guess you see the outcome. sorry I couldnt fix-you-upa , but sometimes you DO have to follow the rules...Be Simple, Be Creative, Bee! Sharon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #7 December 23, 2003 "Any idea's anyone??. " Never had this problem but what I might be tempted to do would be to render the clip as slo-mo, then save as an AVI then import that into your project. Don't forget to 'unlink' the sound on the new clip. Rendering the slo mo separately gives more editing flexibility instead of re-rendering if you change say the in or out points. Slo mo-ing at the camcorder is probably not a great idea unless you are crash editing.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 5 #8 December 23, 2003 I have the same problem using VideoWave.It plays back ok on the monitor but if I try to put it back into the camera or VCR the music doesn't go with the videoReplying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #9 December 23, 2003 Sory, can't help you with video wave, try the render as an AVI workaround, and re-import the clip to the timeline. Works for me and Premiere....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #10 December 23, 2003 QuoteI loose all sound. Does this include the soundtrack, or is it just the background noise? If it is the background sound only, that is because when you slow-mo the camera, the sound stops during playback, and that is what premiere captured... if it all the sound, I'm not sure. Quotepicture goes grainy on premiere's monitor How does it look on an output monitor, or previewed to the camera? There is a difference in what you see on your computer screen and what you will see on a tv. Have you rendered your slow-mo segment? Did you try the "reverse field dominance" option under the "Video Options" sub-menu? JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoneRat 0 #11 December 23, 2003 I'm no premier guru... played with it enough to know how buggy it can be... never hurts to make things as normal for it as possible... that said... this might work... Record the video in slow-mo onto another mini-dv or vhs... then, if on vhs, record that back onto mini-dv at regular speed. The content will be slow-mo'd, but the tape runs at normal speed. Capture as usual. That way you get the slow-mo without using premier to do it. So the quality should be better. Record the sountrack separately on mini-dv then capture it as audio only. That way you have a separate audio track and video track to play with in premier- both going in at normal speed. This would sidestep any problems premier is giving you about caturing sound and video together or at odd speeds. Just a guess. Hope it helps.“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverds 0 #12 December 23, 2003 If you capture the video at normal speed you can unlink the audio, then change the speed of the video in Premiere and you will have no problems. A speed of about 70-80% will give you close to the same look as your Sony camera running in slow-motion. Just right click on the video clip in your timeline, select speed, and change it to whatever percentage you want. If you get below 50% it will start to look pretty shoddy. Skydive Radio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldgit 0 #13 December 23, 2003 It might be a rendering problem. As said above capture the footage using premiere at normal speed then right click on the clip in the timeline you want to change the speed off. Depending how good the footage is you should be able to slow it to 30% without losing quality. Then delete the sound part of the clip & replace with music. You need to save this then render it. On the tool bar select Timeline > render work area then when you export this it should be fine What version of Premiere are you using Hope this helps John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #14 December 23, 2003 I've made extensive use of Premiere's slo-mo - It's far superior to what the camera can do because the software extrapolates the missing data. Watch this film, and notice the slo-mo's at 3:08 and 3:56. It's not the greatest example because of the poor quality of the compressed for internet video, but I assure you the slo-mo's themselves are crystal clear. http://66.102.107.165/andrew/2003pgS.wmv _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyfly 0 #15 December 24, 2003 nice slow-ho`s. what did you use for that one (it's the transitions that give it away...) Software rendered slow-mos are best when they are kept in the 2nd degree speeds (1/2, 1/4...) but other speeds sometimes hit a good quality ... live and learn ... leave and learn (he)Be Simple, Be Creative, Bee! Sharon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #16 December 24, 2003 Those ones were pretty arbitrary. I created the slow-mo by dragging the clip on the timeline. The first came out at 22.34% and the second was 24.62%. Premiere 6.5 does a very good job of extrapolating the missing data. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blazetailman 0 #17 December 24, 2003 I think the slo mo part of the thread was well dicussed to solve your problem, But i noticed something else. People kept recommending to unlink the audio. If you capture just skydiving footage, most of the time the audio of freefall is useless for video. There is not need to capture it. Save on file size and bandwidth. The easiest way to do it is to click the box in the lowere left of the capture window. see the attached.www.canopyflightcenter.com www.skydivesac.com www.guanofreefly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
