ltdiver 3 #1 December 22, 2003 So, I got this picture of some friends attempting their first Mr. Bill dive today. Here's one that really made them smile. (told them I could photoshop them to make it even more interesting if they liked.... god I love this camera.... (photo, of course, scaled down to fit into this wonderful web site). ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #2 December 22, 2003 Cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyfly 0 #3 December 23, 2003 Nice clean shot ! seems like t'was a pretty bright day though ...Be Simple, Be Creative, Bee! Sharon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #4 December 23, 2003 QuoteNice clean shot ! seems like t'was a pretty bright day though ... Thanks. Yeah, it was bright with little puffy white clouds scattered around. The prints are coming out awesome...better than what this internet capture can give. Plus....Photoshop helps some to touch it up and give more definition to the background. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #5 December 23, 2003 Lori, the on-camera flash is very effective in those door shots with bright backgrounds. You just leave it in shutter priority, but when you pop it up it automatically goes to 1/200. You zap off the exit shots (only work on a tailgate) and when you are ready to go, reach up and shut the flash, which resets the camera to your preferred shutter speeds and off you go into the wild blue yonder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #6 December 23, 2003 Thanks for the input. Nice to know for the next time. Not sure it would have worked on this particular dive since I was jumping and deploying just 2 seconds after they exited. (they wanted a Mr. Bill under canopy picture). ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #7 December 23, 2003 There's also the issue of lag between when the camera looks at the scene and computes the exposure and the time when it actually exposes the imager. If in that moment of lag the light level changes significantly, you can end up with a less than perfect exposure. For me, this exposure fault shows up a little too frequently on leading Skyvan exits going from the darkness to full sunlight.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shunkka 0 #8 January 6, 2004 very cool shot ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #9 January 6, 2004 QuoteFor me, this exposure fault shows up a little too frequently on leading Skyvan exits going from the darkness to full sunlight. Absolutely. That is one of the shots I wanted to get that motivated me to mount up a flash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites linestretch 0 #10 January 6, 2004 who's in the picture?my pics & stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #11 January 7, 2004 Quotewho's in the picture? Two skydivers who call Perris their home. Paul and Polly. And I kind of like the blanked out background. It shows up just a bit more on the print, but gives a good contrast between subject and background. It takes the 'busy-ness' out of the picture that actually can detract. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites melstarr 0 #12 January 8, 2004 QuoteAnd I kind of like the blanked out background. It shows up just a bit more on the print, but gives a good contrast between subject and background. It takes the 'busy-ness' out of the picture that actually can detract. I COMPLETELY agree! Your picture is AWESOME** I hope you post more pics in the future ~ you are Really talented ~ you have also convinced many of the Rebel's potential! thank you so much for posting your pic ~ meL* Pink Mafia / Tunnel Mafia Sister Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites psw097 0 #13 January 8, 2004 Here is a good shot from my Digital Rebel of a Mr. Bill we did last fall. JMFreefly took the picture because I am the idiot thowing the PC. Jump worked until Mr. Bill stalled the canopy while trying to turn around on my shoulders and put me in line twist that had my hand trapped in the risers. We had the 2 inside video angles and chase canopy with video and stills. Well documented. Cannot be happier with the camera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #14 January 9, 2004 Quote I COMPLETELY agree! Your picture is AWESOME** I hope you post more pics in the future ~ you are Really talented ~ you have also convinced many of the Rebel's potential! thank you so much for posting your pic Thanks Mel. The more I learn about this camera the more I'm impressed. I've taken it to work with me on occasion (for special events) and now 2 -other- therapists are jonesing for one of their own! :^) I guess they had to special order it, as all the stores around had run out of their stock! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #15 January 9, 2004 The only thing I've noticed that is lacking on the DigiRebel is the low-light focus aquisition. My boss uses the rebel and I just kick his ass on sunset swooping flash photos. Maybe it's cause he's not using the 550EX. Folks, if you are buying a flash to take cool evening photos, get the 550 EX. It is a quantum leap better than anything else in the line. Ask Iwan, he used mine and he's convinced with his DigiRebel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites psw097 0 #16 January 9, 2004 Nothing quite as annoying as the built in flash strobe for AF assist on the 300D. That thing freaks me out and doesn't do that great a job. I got a 420EX, not as powerful as the 550EX and no manual controls but has a nice AF assist lamp. Just got a Tamron 28-75/2.8 from the green santa I'm hoping that will make a nice swooper combo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #17 January 9, 2004 QuoteThe only thing I've noticed that is lacking on the DigiRebel is the low-light focus aquisition. My boss uses the rebel and I just kick his ass on sunset swooping flash photos. Did he use the 'kit' lens? I noticed that it had a huge problem in low light, like you mention. My 20mm is -much- better in this regard. However, the 550EX is a must for my 'early Christmas' stocking this year. Unless you're real close the onboard flash just doesn't cut it. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jdhill 0 #18 January 9, 2004 QuoteUnless you're real close the onboard flash just doesn't cut it. Not sure about the rebel, but on the D60 they should have just left the flash off the thing... if you are close enough that it *should* work you are likely to get a nasty shadow from the lens barrel. Of course the size of the shadow depend on the size lens, but with a 20mm it ruins the picture, IMO. The 550EX is a great add to the gear bag, for jumping, or on the ground. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ltdiver 3 #19 January 9, 2004 Guess I should have added that the 20mm/flash combo I've used was -not- for swoop pictures, or even anything outside. It is the combo I've used for indoor photography with the 300D. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #20 January 9, 2004 I get a huge barrel shadow when using onboard flash and the 14. Not a problem with the 20 if I have the lens hood off. I took the attached photo with the onboard flash and the 20mm at 1/200th. I think it's much better than without it, but yeah, I was right on top of these guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites genoyamamoto 0 #21 January 10, 2004 QuoteDid he use the 'kit' lens? I noticed that it had a huge problem in low light, like you mention. My 20mm is -much- better in this regard. ltdiver Autofocus is done with the lens wide-open. The kit lens is f/3.5 wide open at 18mm, vs f/2.8 for the 20mm, or ~60% more light to auto-focus with. You can see the effect of a smaller aperture by when using your 20mm lens. Set the aperture to 3.5 and hit the DOF preview button on your camera. You'll see why the autofocus has a hard time with the ef-s lens. In fact, if you can get a hold of a 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 lens, try shooting with that. You'd be amazed at the kind of shots you can get in poor lighting conditions. Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skyfly 0 #3 December 23, 2003 Nice clean shot ! seems like t'was a pretty bright day though ...Be Simple, Be Creative, Bee! Sharon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #4 December 23, 2003 QuoteNice clean shot ! seems like t'was a pretty bright day though ... Thanks. Yeah, it was bright with little puffy white clouds scattered around. The prints are coming out awesome...better than what this internet capture can give. Plus....Photoshop helps some to touch it up and give more definition to the background. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #5 December 23, 2003 Lori, the on-camera flash is very effective in those door shots with bright backgrounds. You just leave it in shutter priority, but when you pop it up it automatically goes to 1/200. You zap off the exit shots (only work on a tailgate) and when you are ready to go, reach up and shut the flash, which resets the camera to your preferred shutter speeds and off you go into the wild blue yonder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #6 December 23, 2003 Thanks for the input. Nice to know for the next time. Not sure it would have worked on this particular dive since I was jumping and deploying just 2 seconds after they exited. (they wanted a Mr. Bill under canopy picture). ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 December 23, 2003 There's also the issue of lag between when the camera looks at the scene and computes the exposure and the time when it actually exposes the imager. If in that moment of lag the light level changes significantly, you can end up with a less than perfect exposure. For me, this exposure fault shows up a little too frequently on leading Skyvan exits going from the darkness to full sunlight.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #8 January 6, 2004 very cool shot ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #9 January 6, 2004 QuoteFor me, this exposure fault shows up a little too frequently on leading Skyvan exits going from the darkness to full sunlight. Absolutely. That is one of the shots I wanted to get that motivated me to mount up a flash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linestretch 0 #10 January 6, 2004 who's in the picture?my pics & stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #11 January 7, 2004 Quotewho's in the picture? Two skydivers who call Perris their home. Paul and Polly. And I kind of like the blanked out background. It shows up just a bit more on the print, but gives a good contrast between subject and background. It takes the 'busy-ness' out of the picture that actually can detract. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melstarr 0 #12 January 8, 2004 QuoteAnd I kind of like the blanked out background. It shows up just a bit more on the print, but gives a good contrast between subject and background. It takes the 'busy-ness' out of the picture that actually can detract. I COMPLETELY agree! Your picture is AWESOME** I hope you post more pics in the future ~ you are Really talented ~ you have also convinced many of the Rebel's potential! thank you so much for posting your pic ~ meL* Pink Mafia / Tunnel Mafia Sister Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psw097 0 #13 January 8, 2004 Here is a good shot from my Digital Rebel of a Mr. Bill we did last fall. JMFreefly took the picture because I am the idiot thowing the PC. Jump worked until Mr. Bill stalled the canopy while trying to turn around on my shoulders and put me in line twist that had my hand trapped in the risers. We had the 2 inside video angles and chase canopy with video and stills. Well documented. Cannot be happier with the camera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #14 January 9, 2004 Quote I COMPLETELY agree! Your picture is AWESOME** I hope you post more pics in the future ~ you are Really talented ~ you have also convinced many of the Rebel's potential! thank you so much for posting your pic Thanks Mel. The more I learn about this camera the more I'm impressed. I've taken it to work with me on occasion (for special events) and now 2 -other- therapists are jonesing for one of their own! :^) I guess they had to special order it, as all the stores around had run out of their stock! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #15 January 9, 2004 The only thing I've noticed that is lacking on the DigiRebel is the low-light focus aquisition. My boss uses the rebel and I just kick his ass on sunset swooping flash photos. Maybe it's cause he's not using the 550EX. Folks, if you are buying a flash to take cool evening photos, get the 550 EX. It is a quantum leap better than anything else in the line. Ask Iwan, he used mine and he's convinced with his DigiRebel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psw097 0 #16 January 9, 2004 Nothing quite as annoying as the built in flash strobe for AF assist on the 300D. That thing freaks me out and doesn't do that great a job. I got a 420EX, not as powerful as the 550EX and no manual controls but has a nice AF assist lamp. Just got a Tamron 28-75/2.8 from the green santa I'm hoping that will make a nice swooper combo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #17 January 9, 2004 QuoteThe only thing I've noticed that is lacking on the DigiRebel is the low-light focus aquisition. My boss uses the rebel and I just kick his ass on sunset swooping flash photos. Did he use the 'kit' lens? I noticed that it had a huge problem in low light, like you mention. My 20mm is -much- better in this regard. However, the 550EX is a must for my 'early Christmas' stocking this year. Unless you're real close the onboard flash just doesn't cut it. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #18 January 9, 2004 QuoteUnless you're real close the onboard flash just doesn't cut it. Not sure about the rebel, but on the D60 they should have just left the flash off the thing... if you are close enough that it *should* work you are likely to get a nasty shadow from the lens barrel. Of course the size of the shadow depend on the size lens, but with a 20mm it ruins the picture, IMO. The 550EX is a great add to the gear bag, for jumping, or on the ground. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #19 January 9, 2004 Guess I should have added that the 20mm/flash combo I've used was -not- for swoop pictures, or even anything outside. It is the combo I've used for indoor photography with the 300D. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #20 January 9, 2004 I get a huge barrel shadow when using onboard flash and the 14. Not a problem with the 20 if I have the lens hood off. I took the attached photo with the onboard flash and the 20mm at 1/200th. I think it's much better than without it, but yeah, I was right on top of these guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genoyamamoto 0 #21 January 10, 2004 QuoteDid he use the 'kit' lens? I noticed that it had a huge problem in low light, like you mention. My 20mm is -much- better in this regard. ltdiver Autofocus is done with the lens wide-open. The kit lens is f/3.5 wide open at 18mm, vs f/2.8 for the 20mm, or ~60% more light to auto-focus with. You can see the effect of a smaller aperture by when using your 20mm lens. Set the aperture to 3.5 and hit the DOF preview button on your camera. You'll see why the autofocus has a hard time with the ef-s lens. In fact, if you can get a hold of a 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 lens, try shooting with that. You'd be amazed at the kind of shots you can get in poor lighting conditions. Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me Feel the hate... Photos here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
