shawnstarr 0 #1 March 22, 2003 OK these are all too small for my current level but i will be there soon and the guys at my jump zone will let me use their larger canopies. i just want to know if these are steals or not. are they good deals. i really like the looks of #1. should i buy it now to use in a year or so 1.reflex with 120 sabre 135 mini-cricket reserve, cypress, altimeter, and full face helmet. all under 100 jumps and 98-01' DOM asking $1700 for all of it. 2.Javelin Odyssey, Full articulation, stainless steel, soft reserve handle, Hard housings in the risers. (former DeLand PD Blue Rig). This looks BRAND NEW. Harness is C-18. Size for up to a 120 sq main. The reserve is a PD 113R manfactured in 2002. asking $1500 3.Talon container (1989 modelTriathlon-135 canopy DOM 2/99, 30 jumps) Cypress Expert AAD (DOM 9/97) Swift-Plus-175 Reserve Bev Suite Jump Suite Sapphire Altimeter Z1 Full Faced Helmet Packing mat asking $1900 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #2 March 22, 2003 Well think of it this way. Every day that cypres is burning it's life up. In a year it will be that much closer to be not worth anything and you basically threw away money buying it while it sat on a shelf loosing value.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 March 22, 2003 Don't plan on buying something to use in 3 months, 6 months or even a year. Sure the guys at your DZ will let you use stuff for now but what happens if you want to go to a boogie or travel to other DZ's? Are they going to just give you a container and say here you go or are you now going to be stuck at one dz? If the loaner gear does'nt fit properly its not worth jumping. Plus you'll want to jump your own gear soon since waiting half a day on Billy Bob to show up with the loaner rig really sucks. I've got 465 jumps and just got to the wingloading you are looking at on the 135. Take it slow, spend 100-200 jumps at a 1:1 loading before going smaller... take your time to down size and be safe. In terms of if they are good deals that depends a lot on how well they fit you, if you have to go an drop money into resizing the harness they become less of a deal. Just a quick search of the classifieds turned up a few rigs that are under $2000 and are what you should be looking for: Javelin container J-3 black w/pink poptop , 175 Swift Plus reserve with 2 jumps on it, 150 Sabre with less then 100 jumps purple. $1,800.00 Sabre 150PD manuf. Dec 93 about 190 jumps/96 Racer Elite container 30 jumps/96 Tempo 150 Reserve never used/Cypres AAD 7/96 4 year servicing was done. $ 1600.00 Javelin J-3, Sabre 170, Swift 172 $1000 vector 3 sabre 150, 25 jumps raven 150, 1 jump altimaster 3 pro dyter $2,200Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 March 22, 2003 The good deals are always out there. Buy what is suitable and safe for you to jump today. If you purchase a canopy too small. you will be afraid of it and will never learn to fly it properly. When you are injured, you may never fly again. Think about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #5 March 23, 2003 QuoteSabre 150PD manuf. Dec 93 about 190 jumps/96 Racer Elite container 30 jumps/96 Tempo 150 Reserve never used/Cypres AAD 7/96 4 year servicing was done. $ 1600.00 Javelin J-3, Sabre 170, Swift 172 $1000 vector 3 sabre 150, 25 jumps raven 150, 1 jump altimaster 3 pro dyter $2,200 These are all screamin' good deals. Don't rely on anyone else to let you use their gear. Buy something now that you can survive landing, every time, regardless of conditions. You'll jump a lot more often and be able to fly the same canopy every time - both of which are very important at your experience level. If you grab one of the deals phreezone found, you won't "lose" a cent when you're ready to downsize. Looks like any of those containers will easily take one size smaller main so you can do your first downsize with the same container/reserve/Cypres. Plan on doing 300+ jumps on your first container - by then you'll also have the advantage of knowing a whole lot more about what gear is right for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #6 March 23, 2003 QuoteWell think of it this way. Every day that cypres is burning it's life up Well think it this way:you could sell the cypress,and by a new one when you can jump in the gear.I do at this time were im grounded for some time.The only thing in the rig which is eating up mony is the cypress,so sell it.theres,atleast in DK,a way to see how much its worth.So you could buy a similar when you can use it. However,i dont think you should buy gear that you can jump out in the future.What if you find out that,its not that gear you need/want at that time? Theres alot of good offers all the time,and sure also when you should need it. Wait would be my advise Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #7 March 28, 2003 Listen to your mentors,but pay attention to Skybytch! Remember those folks want your money first... ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
