Sony cameras.....HELP!!!

[pyke 0]

I don't mean to dredge up previous discussions...but I'm stuck for knowledge and I can't be bothered going back through all the threads to discover peoples opinions....for time's sake.

I'm doing my research on which cameras to buy...and having gone and looked at some of the options available to me through the stores - I don't see the pc5's or pc10's available. I have been looking at the ip5's and a few people have them. However, they don't seem to be very BIG on options. I noted more options on the TRV33.

What is the overall experience with any SONY camera and which would you buy if you did it all over again??

I'm really wanting to start filming so I can expand my opportunities in the sport....so any and ALL advice is helpful. Thanks!!!

(afterthought...would you buy a used camera first??)

Kahurangi e Mahearangi,
Kiwi, RB #926, AFF-I, FAA Snr. Rigger, RN/BSN/Paramedic

[ELOY3DCAMERA 0]

Hi may name is eloy and my english is bad so hope you understand, i've been jumping cameras for about 8 years and as a tv producer, i used a bunch of cameras, my best choice after using almost all of them, is the sony the winner, why, simple they don't crack undre pressure they keep going and going, about what to to buy in that line, well it's depend what you need, for tv stuff a usually use my vx1000 3cdd camera and for fun the new trv will do the job good, cuse in the end you need, mini dv, firewire and antishake the rest are details,all for now,...Eloy keep X3M

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[AggieDave 6]

The IP5 doesn't offer much of anything in versitility for skydiving (lack of a lanc port, can't firewire to other DCR-PCs or TRVs, etc)

For a side mount, since you're obviously looking new, check the DCR-PC105. I can't remember the URL right now, but if you look under the PC105 thread I started in this forum, you'll find a link to a shop in NY that has them brand new for $719.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[quade 4]

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. . . but I'm stuck for knowledge and I can't be bothered going back through all the threads to discover peoples opinions....for time's sake.

I really doubt you're "stuck" because it doesn't look like you've even tried!

Wow, and that's really too bad 'cause like, in another thread I said I'd give $50,000 dollars to a person that wouldn't waste our time asking the same question over and over.

Seriously, do even the -smallest- amount of research and you'll find this has been discussed. I mean, how can you expect US to reinvest the effort to answer these questions if you and people like you aren't willing to meet us half-way?

BTW, if you can be patient for a few days, I'll put up some details of the new video camera I just bought. I think you'll find it interesting.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[pyke 0]

quade,

I appreciate your response, and recognize my novice-ness to your expertise in the field....

but from one person to another - you could phrase your replies a little more codially - so as to not come across as an a$$. (I've been reading a few of the others...and it just seems you've got an attitude about being a video flyer)

I recognized that I hadn't done my research - and simply stating that by me not doing any - you weren't going to dignify my response with any feedback - would have been enough. The way it stands now, though, I'm just left with thoughts of you that, having not ever met you, I hope are un-substantiated.

Anyway - I think I have got myself sorted on a used camera from another jumper and I will use that to get started. Once I get comfortable with flying a camera - I'll look to upgrade.

Thanks for all the responses on this thread - yours too, quade!

Kahurangi e Mahearangi,
Kiwi, RB #926, AFF-I, FAA Snr. Rigger, RN/BSN/Paramedic

[chachi 0]

Pyke,

This is to formally tell you that you are wrong. Quade happens to be one of the best sources of video flying information sharing out there. He spends HIS time to come to this forum and continually share the information that cost him thousands of dollars to learn to save the people around here time and money.

We have answered these questions in about 500 threads in this forum before. Ongoing and continuous information on all the new cameras that come out gets posted right after some people go and check them out.

If you only searched Sony Cameras or anything close to that in this forum the wealth of information that you would learn would be amazing.

Instead you ask us to come and spend our time again typing it because you are to lazy to look it up. Then when someone has a problem with it you attack them without knowing what they do to help some of us.

I think YOU should be the one to re adjust YOUR thread because most of us know how Quade is but the only thing we see is your laziness.

Peace.

~Chachi

[quade 4]

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Anyway - I think I have got myself sorted on a used camera from another jumper and I will use that to get started. Once I get comfortable with flying a camera - I'll look to upgrade.

How much and for what price?

Ask yourself why this other jumper wanted to get rid of the camera.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[pyke 0]

It's an ip5 and it's a good price for being brand new. I'm not looking to make this second income yet - so there was no worries there.

Chachi - you're right - and I admit that my thread was started late on a weekend night that followed a busy day. So, allow someone to admit when they've come across as a lazy researcher (that's what I do all week long for $$ - so sometimes it's just nice to be told what you want to know directly!!!)

I hope I'm still welcome to visit this thread and bore you with my "soon to be experienced" questions of what and how!!

Later,

Kahurangi e Mahearangi,
Kiwi, RB #926, AFF-I, FAA Snr. Rigger, RN/BSN/Paramedic

[nacmacfeegle 0]

"It's an ip5 and it's a good price for being brand new."

To cut a long story short Pyke, don't buy one mate.
The only advantage appears to be their size. I'm in the market for a new PC series cam to replace my ageing PC7, and I'm NOT looking at the IP series.
They record data in a format different from their miniDV cousins, so are incompatible for direct transfer between your friends. They are also about as much use as a chocolate fireguard with my current edit setups.
I hear the on/off buttons are on the wrong side for most standard side mount setups.
Basically, they are more hassle than they are worth.

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[quade 4]

You may have done a bit better all around by getting a TRV22.

I was kind of hoping that after my hinting for you to be doing a bit more research here that you would have. We've written extensively here about the ills of the Sony IP line and the advantages of the current TRV line of cameras.

I have a little time on my hands this morning so I'll reiterate some.

I just picked up a Sony TRV22 from an on-line retailer. It cost $630 which included 3-day shipping. Actually, it came in 2 days after I ordered it! Camera prices are volitile and can change on an almost weekly basis. My suggestion for shopping for electronics is to check them out on cnet.com first to see the range of prices. Do NOT make your buying choices based on the on-line reviews. The people over at cnet tend to not skydive and have no idea what YOU would need.

Last night I fired the new TRV22 up for the first time to do a couple of simple tests. The results of the first one, just to see what different lenses look like, you can see HERE.

My suggestion, would be to try to get out of the IP5 deal. The IP5 may be a good buy for you today, but ultimately I think you're going to be very disappointed with the utility of it and you're just going to want a different camera -- so why buy twice?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[AndyMan 7]

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It's an ip5 and it's a good price for being brand new.

Generally we recomend people do their research before buying, not after. The IP5 is not a very good camera for skydiving.

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You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead.

[chachi 0]

You are certainly welcome to come here and ask questions. Just wanted you to know the guy most of us go to around here for really good advice is Quade.

IP5 is not the best camera though bud, sorry to say.

~Chachi

[webracer 0]

I know about 6 people jumping IP5 or IP7 cameras without too many problems. The biggest issue is lack of a lanc port. I also know 3 people jumping IP55 cameras (and I just bought one to jump with). The IP55 has a lanc port, and the advantage of MPEG2 is it is a great format for capture for editing. The disadvantage is that you cannot share via firewire to MiniDV owners, you have to capture in PC first, then export to them. It can be done. You can also share via analog if you buy the right adapters.
Jump the IP5 if you feel it suits you, luckily with so many folks at my dz (SDC) using MicroMV, there is opportunity to share via firewire. I also have a MiniDV VCR to make it easier to share.
Also the tapes are more expensive, but all have 64k memory onboard, which makes searching the tape great.
Enjoy it if you buy it.

Troy

I am now free to exercise my downward mobility.

[pyke 0]

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You may have done a bit better all around by getting a TRV22.

My suggestion, would be to try to get out of the IP5 deal. The IP5 may be a good buy for you today, but ultimately I think you're going to be very disappointed with the utility of it and you're just going to want a different camera -- so why buy twice?

Well, I appreciate all of your efforts, quade (and all the others), and I have taken your advice to heart. After *further* research and talking to a few more folks about it - I was conscience-stricken - and I was able to get out of my agreement to purchase the IP5. (The seller is a very cool person!! and I thank him if he's reading)

So, I will do a bit more research and spend a bit more time looking into which camera would suit my purposes better....and get back to you all on what I decide....no doubt with TONS of questions!!!

Thanks again...and sorry for the snipe-ishness!

Kahurangi e Mahearangi,
Kiwi, RB #926, AFF-I, FAA Snr. Rigger, RN/BSN/Paramedic