flyingferret 0 #1 March 15, 2003 Obviously I know it can, but where is the line? I just helped pack my new Wings W-13, and boy is it tight!! Specs say a PDR176 (tight) and 170 main. I have exactly that in it...and it is hard as a rock. Anything I have to worry about? or just breaking it in? Just curious.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonicfreefly 0 #2 March 15, 2003 If your main is really tight in the container, someone suggested to me to leave it unpacked at the end of the day, and do a fresh repack when your ready to use it again. This will prevent the container from stretching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #3 March 15, 2003 I always order my containers on the large side as I prefer a "squishy" feel for both the main and reserve pack jobs. Canopy volumes vary greatly too due to calendering during fabric production. I also prefer all white reserves as they tend to have a lower pack volumes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkvapor 0 #4 March 15, 2003 I have a Wings W-13 with a PD160 (white) and a Cobalt 170. The fit is perfect, and I could see how it would be very tough getting a PD176 in there. What model main do you have? There is a guy I know that had a new FC main (Sentry maybe) in his W-13 that had a huge pack volume. His was so bad that the main grommets didn't even come close to lining up (with a rigger set closing loop length). I think if your main and reserve pins can be pulled at the appropriate pull strengths, and your main grommets line up decently, then its not a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 March 17, 2003 I have a W-13 witha PDr 176 and a Heatwave 170. The fit is perfect. Not too tight (although it is a bit snug, not bad, though), and not loose. You know, it really comes down to how well the rigger packs the reserve as to the pack volume. Well, let me refraise that, even it a properly, well packed reserve, the proper steps may not have been taken to insure the smallest pack job, which in your case, makes a difference. Bring it down to Todd and let him pack it, he packs mine and does a very very good job of it.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #6 March 17, 2003 Humidity also makes a huge difference. If it is extremely dry (AZ/CO) then it won't pack down as small as if it was in Houston.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybrat68 0 #8 April 25, 2003 I was told by a master rigger that as long as the reserve canopy is not exposed, the pack job can be hard as a rock. As far as your main goes, the container was built to hold a 170 main. The Wings harness/container system is built to be as small as possible for a tight, slim look. It may be a little hard to close but it poses not safety problems. As I have been told more times than I can count, the canopy wants to open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SanDiegoRW 0 #9 April 25, 2003 I have a Wings W-9 with a 150/150 in it. The main goes in a bit tight but I haven't had any problems so far and it keeps the closing loop/pin nice and tight. I think as long as no D-bag or lines are hanging out of the bottom of container it should be alright. Just my opinion of course. -Kenny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SanDiegoRW 0 #10 April 25, 2003 Riggers should have a special reserve packing room with A/C and a humidifier then. Like a paint booth kinda... -Kenny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #11 April 25, 2003 QuoteRiggers should have a special reserve packing room with A/C and a humidifier then. Like a paint booth kinda... Riggers do have to keep their loft within certain temperature guidelines. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #12 April 25, 2003 Quote Riggers should have a special reserve packing room with A/C and a humidifier then. Like a paint booth kinda... BWHAHAHAHA......from what I've seen here you are lucky if your rig isn't repacked in the main packing area. Ok maybe it isn't that bad, but it sure is close. Now we do run the humidifier in the winter, but that is more so you don't get electrocuted by the cat than for packing reserve since Derek doesn't seem to have any problems packing here vs. packing in Houston. Well as long as the reserve is made for the container and not 1 size bigger (ie. 193 in a container made for a 176 tight)Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SanDiegoRW 0 #13 April 25, 2003 Oh is that what they use the loft for? I thought it was for shagging -Kenny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #14 April 25, 2003 Eons ago the FAA published temperature and humidity guidelines for parachute lofts. Many lofts in California use swamp coolers to both reduce temperature and increase humidity. Some say that they use swamp coolers because they cost less to run than air conditioners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
