GumbyGirl 0 #1 April 22, 2003 If your L.O. is constantly putting too many people on the dive, so that you know there's no chance of success, can you say something to them? I know a couple of L.O.'s whose dives have NO chance of success. Too many points. Too many people. I mention breaking it down to smaller groups, but they seem to feel that everyone should be on one big jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 April 22, 2003 It may or may not be the fault of the LO. There are two possiblities here; The LO has a mandate from the DZ to put butts in seats. That is to say it's all about getting people on the plane and making the DZ some money. To me this is a very short view and eventually bites the DZ. The other possibility is the LO has an ego problem. In either case, you'll want to try to find out more before creating too much of a fuss at your DZ. Once you've identified the situation, then you can take steps to correct it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albatross 0 #3 April 22, 2003 I think that Quade has it covered. Many LO programs are undrstaffed and/or undersupported. The LO has the impossible problem of being all things to all people at the same time. Talk to the LO about it and see if it is the LO or the DZ or something else.Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryskydives 0 #4 April 22, 2003 I mention breaking it down to smaller groups, but.. Go back and read Steve's " Being cut from a load! " in this forum. All that applies. If you want to control the quality of the Skydives you can hire your own LO, now pronounced coach, and invite the people you want to participate. If the DZ has hired some one to put together 20ways, and you want to do 10 way, what about the other 10 people and the cost ratio. That line between "it's all good", and "had the most fun ever" gets blurred as your skills increase. PS I really wanted to show some photos taken by Corey Parker this past weekend. PPS Had the most fun ever! Don't run out of altitude and experience at the same time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #5 April 22, 2003 Definitely talk to him/her. Do it out of earshot of other people on the load so he doesn't have to give you a 'politically correct' answer. It's been my experience that some organizees want to go big at any cost; some want to stay small and turn a lot of points, some want the biggest successful dive possible. Often the organizer doesn't know what kind of mix of those people he has unless you speak up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #6 April 25, 2003 Start organizing your own jumps. Its your jump ticket and you can start having your own group to organize jumps with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #7 April 25, 2003 Harry, Hot pictures. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryskydives 0 #8 April 25, 2003 Hey SparkeY: Thanks, we just poised, Corey Parker did the picture taking. Ps we are coming to Elsinore for Cinco de Mayo. C ya? Harry Don't run out of altitude and experience at the same time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #9 April 25, 2003 Quote Hey SparkeY: Thanks, we just poised, Corey Parker did the picture taking. Ps we are coming to Elsinore for Cinco de Mayo. C ya? Harry Have fun and pull safe, I am going to Texas. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #10 April 26, 2003 QuotePs we are coming to Elsinore for Cinco de Mayo (pardon me for butting in here, but I will be there 5/3 with about 5 other dz.comers (at least)...it also happens to be my birthday...make sure you look me up! I'd love to say hi!) ('Kay, I'll butt out now...) Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #11 April 26, 2003 QuoteQuotePs we are coming to Elsinore for Cinco de Mayo (pardon me for butting in here, but I will be there 5/3 with about 5 other dz.comers (at least)...it also happens to be my birthday...make sure you look me up! I'd love to say hi!) ('Kay, I'll butt out now...) Ciels- Michele, Dave would probably much rather meet you at Elsinore then me! Sparky MicheleMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkpbxman 0 #12 April 27, 2003 If the L.O.'s dives constantly turn into zoo's, not only is it a waste of your money, it's also a safety issue. At the appropriate time, politely inform the L.O. that you have dirt dived your own jump (with a smaller group of people) in order to work on something specific. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harryskydives 0 #13 April 28, 2003 Hey Michele: We arrive thursday night late. C ya soon. Maybe i can be on your birthday jump? Don't run out of altitude and experience at the same time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
