DaVinciflies 0 #1 June 25, 2012 Safety margin, speed, distance - whatever type of improvement you like. For me the thing I learned recently which made a big difference was to try to release the front risers over a three second count. It is quite hard to control, but has made a difference to my speed as the canopy recovers. I have had to take my initiation altitude up though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
browny05 0 #2 June 26, 2012 breathe, easiest way to do this is to sing or talk yourself through what your doing. sounds weird but worked for me. This technique also also improved my girlfriends basic canopy flight overnight. She sings teddy bears picnic from about 2000ft down, shes gone from pounding in on a Pilot 170 to landing CRW lightning 126s beautifully in a very short amount of time, by singing/breathing relaxing....remember to take it easy.....and if its easy take it home.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #3 June 26, 2012 Finish the turn strong.Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 June 26, 2012 Quote Finish the turn strong. Um yeah... and land in the very soft swamp at the end of the swoop lake when you bail... I will show you da video some timeI leave the swoopin to the youngins now.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 June 26, 2012 QuoteFinish the turn strong. I felt it was like "throw your canopy to the ground" at the end of the turn. Really put the BAM into the dive.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #6 June 26, 2012 QuoteFinish the turn strong. Do you mean by this to start the turn with a slower rate of rotation and build to a "snap" at the end? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berchtoldaj 0 #7 June 26, 2012 Learning how to fly a pattern in any wind speed and direction.************ Watch out for planters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacketsdb23 49 #8 June 26, 2012 Recognizing my attitude and behavior pattern on the way to the DZ. I found on days where I "had" to swoop, I did terrible. Recognized this most on days after 2+ weeks away (business, RW, etc.) I've learned to relax and enjoy the process.Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen God is Good Beer is Great Swoopers are crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #9 June 26, 2012 QuoteFinish the turn strong. Ian, could you detail that for me?Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hparrish 0 #10 June 26, 2012 Know why to bail, when to bail, and how to bail. You don't have to swoop on every landing, and you don't have to finish every turn you start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #11 June 26, 2012 For me personally it's all about the mental state. Realizing that it's just swooping and not the end all be all of my life. Breath, relax, have fun, and enjoy the journey. Other than that...flying a good pattern/set up is keySlip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #12 June 26, 2012 QuoteKnow why to bail, when to bail, and how to bail. You don't have to swoop on every landing, and you don't have to finish every turn you start. That's the one I try to get into every pilot's head. Bailing when you don't have to won't hurt you. Not bailing when you should will kill you.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #13 June 26, 2012 Awesome stuff. To collate what we have so far (I put the safety-specific ones at the top, others in no particular order): - Know how to bail - Know why/when to bail - Don't fall into the "have to swoop" trap. - Learn to fly an accurate pattern/set up in any wind speed/direction - Finish the turn strong (hopefully Ian will give us a little more detail on this) - Breathe (and/or singing!) - Slow release of fronts to start recovery (ie. be smooth, or perhaps I mean "mooth"). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyn 0 #14 June 26, 2012 flying a pattern that facilitated me in reaching my initiation point at a consistant altitude in a variety of wind conditions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #15 June 30, 2012 Here's one for the safety side of things: Don't put all your fingers through the dive loops - it means you have nothing left to hold the toggles with and could lead to a dropped toggle as you remove your hand from the dive loop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krisco 0 #16 July 5, 2012 #1 - Eye ball the ground! digital altimeters are great and so are audible altimeters but your Eyes are the BEST!! Use them and trust them. #2 - Concentrate on accuracy first! Be able to land in any direction no matter what the winds are doing and be able to finish the Swoop where you want! #3 - Once you can do that, you can start worrying about techniques and degree of turn! #1 - Oh and the most important!!! Look Awesome, Be Rad and Remember Safety is always #3Skydivers are nothing but a bunch of Narcissistic A$$holes!! Front risers were made for pulling! Pal MuFF#5640 D.S. # 2012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhanold 0 #17 July 17, 2012 When I was doing 270's I used to say the swoop is won or lost at 1000 ft, meaning if you put the thought into it before the turn it will pay off and if you are not in the right place at 1000 ft don't force it. Now days it is won or lost at 1500ft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Polite 0 #18 August 2, 2012 The biggest thing I have learned is to trust my rears to pull me out of low swoops. They work, just sometimes you have to pull harder on them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites