Photos: rigging, damage, malfunctions etc...

[petur 0]

Yesterday I was surfing and found http://www.noexcusesrigging.com for some odd reason. They have some pretty neat detailed info and photos on a few rigging related scenarios:

http://www.noexcusesrigging.com/ResInsp.htm
http://www.noexcusesrigging.com/user_errors.htm
http://www.noexcusesrigging.com/97JMRIG.html
http://www.noexcusesrigging.com/GearCheck.htm
http://www.noexcusesrigging.com/DeploymentDevices.htm

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P.
"It Hurts to Admit When You Make Mistakes -
But When They're Big Enough, the Pain Only Lasts a Second."

[hookitt 1]

Pretty cool site. Not entirely accurate, but still interesting.

Thanks

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[sdctlc 0]

I think if you are a non-rigger and are interested in seeing a glimpse into what a rigger looks for or want some ideas regarding insite with your gear it's a great site. Gives some things to look at and to think about. Vic did a good job on that site and I am sure will be addig to it as he ses fit or as he gets feedback from! There are a lot of people that dont know as much about the gear they jump or how it works as there should be out there, its too bad but a true thing to think about...

Scott C.

"He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!"

[hookitt 1]

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I think if you are a non-rigger and are interested in seeing a glimpse into what a rigger looks for or want some ideas regarding insite with your gear it's a great site.
Scott C.

Sorry dude.. Yes I agree. It's a cool site. I had intended on cancelling my message but apparently .. I was a bit of a spaz.

Basically I could have looked at more of the site but made a hasty post instead. My bad... C-ya

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[dropdeded 0]

Very interesting site for a lowtimer like myself.Those are things that I dont have an opportunity to see.
Thanks

dropdeded

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[CrazyIvan 0]

Very informative, netx time I see a rig in the packing area, I'll look at them and see if I've learned something.

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Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.

[ERICCONNELLY 0]

Attached is a E-mail from Vic (copied from our onofficial DZ web page)

Thought I might share it here since I agree - - But do not have Vic's experience or eloquence.

Eric

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Subject: High Speed Canopy Discussion
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:33:39 -0800

Brett:
First, thank you for the kind words next to the No Excuses link on the links page. I actually blushed when I read it.
I've been following the discussion about high speed canopies on the Poop Sheet and tried to add my two cents, but for some reason MSN won't let me post. Could you please cut and paste this for me?
One of the big problems facing the sport - one that nobody wants to talk about - is the generally dismal level of knowledge and abilities most jumpers have. We spend so much time fixated on the thrill of falling out of airplanes that we don't spend the time, money and effort it takes to truly become skilled at what we do.
Want proof? Just look up sometime. How often does really good relative work occur? Sure, jumpers with hundreds or thousands of jumps might turn in a fairly decent performance, but what about those poor folks who've just spent thousands of dollars on training, gear and the latest jumpsuits?
Considering that they've just come out of an expensive training program one would think that any random group of four could at least perform adequate gear checks, spot, get together in freefall, and land safely on the DZ. We all know that maybe some of the time they can accomplish all these things on one dive, but few of us would bet on it. And that's shameful.
Skydiving skills are so bad that drop zones have to advertise nationally in order to find AFF instructors. Most parachute centers don't seem to have the ability to train local jumpers to the level required to pass an AFF course. Or complete an SCS load. That's awful.
Why is this? It's easy to blame the parachute center owner, but he or she is only meeting the demands of the marketplace. Nobody is demanding comprehensive training programs that produce excellent skydivers because they cost money. Instead the demand is for training programs that meet the absolute minimum standards and are as inexpensive as possible. The competition between parachute centers boils down to getting customers off student status as soon as possible. Parachute center operators who have tried to increase the quality - and expense - of their training programs have found that customers go to less expensive competitors.
We are so smitten with the thrill of falling out of the airplane that we don't think much about learning basic skills. I don't know how many jumps I've been on in which people just stop flying once they get a death grip on somebody in the formation. One of two things usually happens on these dives. Either everybody in the formation starts floating to keep up with the guy or gal who is ignoring a basic skill like fall rate control, or the person floating maintains the death grip and funnels the whole dive. The really destructive thing is what happens after the dive - anybody who didn't dock on the floating, turning formation that lost heading control right after exit is severely criticized for it. That kind of public criticism robs people of the courage to try a challenging slot in the future, and they tend to confine themselves to what they already know. And that's a perfect way to paralyze learning potential.

The hard truth is that skydiving is a team sport, and if the group didn't accomplish its freefall goals the entire group needs to accept responsibility for it and take corrective actions. It's a lot easier to blame others than it is to band together as a group with a common goal and do what needs to be done to excel in the air.

So what does this have to do with high speed canopies? Easy. We've put ourselves in a situation where our skills are so poor can't take any pride in them - either as a group or individually - so we look for other places to demonstrate our abilities. Unfortunately the place many of us choose to shine is a few inches above the ground at 80 miles an hour. It's an activity based on testosterone and daring rather than structure and discipline. There's nothing wrong with testosterone and daring, but when we concentrate on those aspects of the sport to the exclusion of actually accomplishing something noteworthy, (like a four point eight way, or CCR load), we denigrate our sport as well as ourselves.

OK, I'm off my soapbox now and I promise to be quiet for another few months.

Vic Napier

No Excuses Rigging

[petur 0]

Golden words of wisdom!

Thanks for sharing!

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P.
"It Hurts to Admit When You Make Mistakes -
But When They're Big Enough, the Pain Only Lasts a Second."

[riggerrob 644]

Isn't political correctness wonderful!
In an effort to avoid hurting other peoples' feelings, we don't say anything.
Unfortunately we avoid giving them advice that might save their lives.
I try to buck this trend by reminding people that when someone goes low on a bellytive work formation, half the time it is because the base got lazy and floated.