dharma1976 0 #76 June 2, 2007 I jumped the neos once today will try to get it again tomorrow... so far opens sweet dives like a crackwhore in a sheetrock factory oversteers a wee bit... but give a little opposite harness when you want it to stop and it does.. I will tell you more tomorrow Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #77 June 3, 2007 QuoteIf they perform like an Xfire2 then i'm sold! QuoteWhy? Isn't it more expensive to get one made out of sail material? If it performs the same as a non-sail I'm baffled why you'd want to deal with the extra pack volume and container sizing issues that come with sail material? If you didn't notice I am also into speedflying. If you have ever ground launched your zp canopy you will notice it gets 'RINSED OUT' very quickly. I need a canopy for ground launching, big ways, and tight demos. The GLSxf does all of those things. GLS stands for Ground Launch Sport, the XF part makes reference to the xfire shape (or something like that, ask Jim Slaton or Gyro) Once these canopies are around for sometime you will begin to see the benefit of paying the higher price with the continued performance and resale value. Sail will last much longer than ZP. As for the pack volume, wouldn't you rather have a reserve that is not over loaded? Ridiculously small containers may be cool but overloading your reserve (like far too many people do) is not a very good idea. Especially if you don't have experience flying Square F111 canopies..........thump! I assume a GLSxf 109 will fit into the same container as my JVX hybrid 84! close anyway. I will be purchasing a new container in the short future and this will be a requirement. I will stick with a 120 reserve. Those are my reasons that I want GLSxf. are you still baffled? Blue skies, Rhyso"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #78 June 4, 2007 Quoteare you still baffled? Somewhat, and I'll try and address why. First though, I'm not knocking sail material, the jvx, the gxf or any other such. A lot of what I'll address are more my thoughts than anything else, not fact by any means at all. QuoteIf you didn't notice I am also into speedflying. If you have ever ground launched your zp canopy you will notice it gets 'RINSED OUT' very quickly. I need a canopy for ground launching, big ways, and tight demos. Make sense but only since you included ground launching. I haven't spent any time doing it so I am totally unaware of the gear wear/maintenance factor - I'll have to take your word that it gets rinsed out so quickly. Of course my first thought is "Get the right tool for the right job". There are canopies specifically made for ground launching (like the GSX I believe), big ways (xf2), and demos (depends on type of demo). I find the idea of trying to make one canopy do all of those things a little unrealistic. I'd rather have something suitable for each need that does each of those needs well than sacrifice in areas for a 'one size fits all'. QuoteRidiculously small containers may be cool but overloading your reserve (like far too many people do) is not a very good idea. Especially if you don't have experience flying Square F111 canopies..........thump! ....I will stick with a 120 reserve. I have an optimum 126 and a velocity 84. My Vector fits both really nicely and it's a small rig. One of the reasons I like the optimum range is so that people can have reasonably sized reserves with small mains if they so choose. QuoteOnce these canopies are around for sometime you will begin to see the benefit of paying the higher price with the continued performance and resale value. Sail will last much longer than ZP. I hope so, but until skydivers get bigger rigs (not likely in MOST cases) I'm not sure that's going to happen. Now the hybrid offerings seems to be a good compromise between pack volume and sail material. As for the performance benefits (if any), I'm still watching but honestly I really haven't seen anything dramatically different....yet. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
