marks 0 #51 December 18, 2006 well his packers also make HUGE line stow bites, I have asked them to make my bite's smaller, but you know how it is. peeps pack how they want then when something happens, they blame something else. the packer i use makes my line stows less than one inch. when you have a 4 inch bite, those lines wander all over the place. not sure if this has anything to do with it, but it is what it is. so you dont think a hard opening on a 111, with high wing loading doesn't put more pressure on each line then say it would a 84 loaded at the same wing loading? smaller canopy, less weight, same wingloading? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #52 December 18, 2006 *** so you dont think a hard opening on a 111, with high wing loading doesn't put more pressure on each line then say it would a 84 loaded at the same wing loading? smaller canopy, less weight, same wingloading? Quote Mark, There are so many variables in that equation...who knows!??? I have had my ass kicked by both large and small canopies. You are exactly right about the stows though. Keep them small and well kept with the rubber bands and you should not see any problems. Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #53 December 19, 2006 Mel, I've been talking to a lot of people about line choices for my situation and of course I've had a decent number of different answers. The overall theme to the answers is that since I use my Velo as an everyday canopy as well as a comp canopy, the small HMA would be a bad choice for my weight and canopy size. That I should stick to the 500 HMA, which is a decent cost layout for not that big of a difference in size compared to the 500 Vectran I have on the canopy already. What are your thoughts? I'm on a Velo 120 loaded at 2.3:1. Although I would LOVE to have the small lines, right now I don't feel like it would be practical for me.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrigger1 2 #54 December 19, 2006 Aggie, Here are the choices: 280 Technora - For serious Swooping and less than 75 jumps ________________________________________________ 300 Technora - Same as above ________________________________________________ 350 Technora - This is the line that you mostly see on Pro Canopies. It is also used for everday jumping, but you have to pack neatly or else! This is also the line that PD calls a 300 lb line. _________________________________________________ 450 Technora - A really good line, but oval shaped. It is the line PD calls 500 lb and is used on the Katana. _________________________________________________ 650 Technora - This is my favorite. It is about the same size as 580 Vectran, only just a touch smaller and is round in shape. Round lines will tend to wear evenly around 360 degrees, where the oval shaped lines will wear on only the two sides, thus a shorter line life. To answer your question; I would go with the 350 if you were wanting to become a serious Pro Swooper. If everyday jumping is the thing, I would use the 650 Technora OR the 580 Vectran. Both are good! The 580 Vectran is also round and has a better life span than the Oval shaped 680 that PD uses. Confused yet!!?? Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #55 December 19, 2006 Quote To answer your question; I would go with the 350 if you were wanting to become a serious Pro Swooper. Sure. Someday, maybe. At that point I'll have a swoop specific rig for non-terminal swoop jumps. QuoteIf everyday jumping is the thing, I would use the 650 Technora OR the 580 Vectran. Both are good! The 580 Vectran is also round and has a better life span than the Oval shaped 680 that PD uses. PD offers "700 Vectran" and "500 Vectran" on the Velo. I have the 500. What is that really and how does that compare to the Technora that you recommended?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
AggieDave 6 #53 December 19, 2006 Mel, I've been talking to a lot of people about line choices for my situation and of course I've had a decent number of different answers. The overall theme to the answers is that since I use my Velo as an everyday canopy as well as a comp canopy, the small HMA would be a bad choice for my weight and canopy size. That I should stick to the 500 HMA, which is a decent cost layout for not that big of a difference in size compared to the 500 Vectran I have on the canopy already. What are your thoughts? I'm on a Velo 120 loaded at 2.3:1. Although I would LOVE to have the small lines, right now I don't feel like it would be practical for me.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #54 December 19, 2006 Aggie, Here are the choices: 280 Technora - For serious Swooping and less than 75 jumps ________________________________________________ 300 Technora - Same as above ________________________________________________ 350 Technora - This is the line that you mostly see on Pro Canopies. It is also used for everday jumping, but you have to pack neatly or else! This is also the line that PD calls a 300 lb line. _________________________________________________ 450 Technora - A really good line, but oval shaped. It is the line PD calls 500 lb and is used on the Katana. _________________________________________________ 650 Technora - This is my favorite. It is about the same size as 580 Vectran, only just a touch smaller and is round in shape. Round lines will tend to wear evenly around 360 degrees, where the oval shaped lines will wear on only the two sides, thus a shorter line life. To answer your question; I would go with the 350 if you were wanting to become a serious Pro Swooper. If everyday jumping is the thing, I would use the 650 Technora OR the 580 Vectran. Both are good! The 580 Vectran is also round and has a better life span than the Oval shaped 680 that PD uses. Confused yet!!?? Cheers, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #55 December 19, 2006 Quote To answer your question; I would go with the 350 if you were wanting to become a serious Pro Swooper. Sure. Someday, maybe. At that point I'll have a swoop specific rig for non-terminal swoop jumps. QuoteIf everyday jumping is the thing, I would use the 650 Technora OR the 580 Vectran. Both are good! The 580 Vectran is also round and has a better life span than the Oval shaped 680 that PD uses. PD offers "700 Vectran" and "500 Vectran" on the Velo. I have the 500. What is that really and how does that compare to the Technora that you recommended?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
