br0k3n 0 #1 August 21, 2006 What are the reasons that you move from rears to toggles whilst swooping? I don’t mean to dig yourself out, but once you’ve planed out and you’re dragging a toe across the pond. Are there any reasons not to simply finish your swoop on rears?? Because once you move to toggles are you not inducing additional drag, and therefore potentially reducing the length of your swoop? Is it Greg Windmiller that completely stops every time on rears? Anyway the reason I ask is that for at least the last 30/40 swoops or so, I’ve just ridden them out on rears with out using any toggle, (I haven’t run a single one out either) I haven’t purposely been aiming to stay on my rears, its just I haven’t felt the need to use any toggle. However I’m now thinking is this a good thing, or am I picking up a bad habit?----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #2 August 21, 2006 Efficiency. QuoteBecause once you move to toggles are you not inducing additional drag? Yes you are, but pulling down your rears at that moment creates even more drag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #3 August 21, 2006 QuoteIs it Greg Windmiller that completely stops every time on rears? Greg just likes to show off. Don't let him fool you though, that spinning around while dragging himself on the ground isn't intentional, he's just trying to save his ass from getting grass stains on it. "It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #4 August 21, 2006 Quote What are the reasons that you move from rears to toggles whilst swooping? I don’t mean to dig yourself out, but once you’ve planed out and you’re dragging a toe across the pond. Are there any reasons not to simply finish your swoop on rears?? Because once you move to toggles are you not inducing additional drag, and therefore potentially reducing the length of your swoop? The canopy will stall at a higher air speed if you remain on your rears. Whatever happened to Aerodynamics 101? This is basic stuff. Any wing can stall at any airspeed and at any attitude. Staying on one's rears the entire swoop (obviously something which is doable) will not make you go further. But you will stall at a higher airspeed. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #5 August 21, 2006 I was riding my rears too long and it was costing me some distance. Couple guys pointed it out to me and I transition to toggles a bit sooner now. Everything is a lot smoother and I seem to be going farther.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #6 August 21, 2006 QuoteEfficiency. QuoteBecause once you move to toggles are you not inducing additional drag? Yes you are, but pulling down your rears at that moment creates even more drag. Sorry, that was a typo on my part....----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #7 August 22, 2006 QuoteI was riding my rears too long and it was costing me some distance. Couple guys pointed it out to me and I transition to toggles a bit sooner now. Everything is a lot smoother and I seem to be going farther. riding your rears too long is a common problem. I had that problem also. there is a way to use your rears, but then get the chance to release them to full flight for a bit before you get to toggles. this is where the efficiency comes into play.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #8 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI was riding my rears too long and it was costing me some distance. Couple guys pointed it out to me and I transition to toggles a bit sooner now. Everything is a lot smoother and I seem to be going farther. riding your rears too long is a common problem. I had that problem also. there is a way to use your rears, but then get the chance to release them to full flight for a bit before you get to toggles. this is where the efficiency comes into play.. It would seem then this is exactly what im doing, I just dont seem to want to let go of my rears.----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
