yardhippie 0 #1 June 2, 2006 And when I say plateau I'm referring to your learning curve. Seems like even though I am making 5-10 jumps a weekend, nearly every week. I am not gettting any better. I get pics of my swoops, video of my swoops (sometimes), and talk with the more advanced swoopers at my DZ weekly. I realize that all learning curves are not continously upward, but it feels like ive been here for a while, and its beginning to get frustrating. Anyone else?Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #2 June 2, 2006 Downsize... Kidding. What are you doing, beer line swooping? It's easy to hit a plateau doing that. Have you got gates you can practice hitting? How about accuracy? Start working the more technical stuff, and I think you'll find the learning curve again. Worked for me anyway. Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyedivr 0 #3 June 2, 2006 QuoteAnd when I say plateau I'm referring to your learning curve. Seems like even though I am making 5-10 jumps a weekend, nearly every week. I am not gettting any better. I get pics of my swoops, video of my swoops (sometimes), and talk with the more advanced swoopers at my DZ weekly. I realize that all learning curves are not continously upward, but it feels like ive been here for a while, and its beginning to get frustrating. Anyone else? Ian and I will take you in the back room and give you a good talking to this weekend....my power is beyond your understanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntacfreefly 0 #4 June 2, 2006 John, I totally understand your frustration. Oftentimes we think we're plateau'ing when all that's really happening is that we're improving in smaller increments. You see, in the beginning our progress is really noticeable, as we get better it becomes more and more refinement and that gets harder to notice. But keep at it and you'll slowly notice improvements. Now, there are some other canopy options we can talk about, I have the luxury of watching you jump each weekend so I have a good idea of where you are. Finally, I was going to train this weekend for next weeks PST meet - if April will be there and will shoot vid we can go through debriefings together and see what we can do to refine your landings even further. Blues, IanTo the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #5 June 2, 2006 I wont be out till late on Sat. Ive got this work thing tommorow, and yea April will be there. Sounds like a plan Trav- Im not going into any "back" room with you around, youre a newlywed, and everyone knows that all newlyweds wanna do is hump. Canuck- weve got gates at both ends of our main landing area. unless traffic is an issue, I set up for them every time. Im wrestling with a few things: trying to slow down my rotation in my turn initially. Problem is: in a nice dive that builds a lot of speed eventually my canopy will plane out, Ive got no choice in the matter. I just do not have the strength to keep them down. this often results in verting the gate or missing it all together b/c I couldnt complete my turn. See some of you this weekend. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 June 2, 2006 I try to learn from the things I could have done better on each jump to improve on on the next jump. An example of this is, did I read the winds properly and start my turn at the right moment in order to compensate for the weather conditions. Sometimes I see good results, sometimes I don't. But think marathons not sprints when it comes to getting better in this sport. Since you appear to jump at a DZ with tons of other good canopy pilots (like the South African dude who talks funny and makes passes at Spizzarko ... or was that the other way around) I trust that they are giving you good feedback to your swoops. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntacfreefly 0 #8 June 2, 2006 Quotethis often results in verting the gate or missing it all together b/c I couldnt complete my turn. Then we need to work on your transition into your harness. Lets chat about it this weekend and see what we can come up with. I'll even bring my tight red shirt To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #9 June 2, 2006 take a break and stop focusing too much on it. i find that when i over analyze what i'm doing and really put too much pressure on my self that's when things start to suffer. i usually go on a tracking dive or free fly jump or something and not concentrate at so much on the swoop. we've all his that plateau, just learn from it and learn how you over come it so you can over come the next one even quicker. just my .02Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewClearSports 0 #10 June 3, 2006 You need to get worse for a while, then you will get better - not kidding. If you read Brian Germains Parachute and it's Pilot book there is a section that explains our learning curves. When you take in new informaition to learn new teckniques and go to apply them you will find your performance will decrease because it is something new to you and you have to take the time to relearn a different way of doing things. But what happens is people don't want to get worse before they get better - they just want to get better - this will cause you to plateu because even though you think you despritely want to get better, you won't let go of the current programed techeniques that you are using now to give you your currenty performance. Get what I'm saying ?? Don't worry we all do it. So what are you waiting for - go out there - have some sucky swoops, look like an idiot infront of the spectators, eat some dirt and before you know it you will break that plateu !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #11 June 3, 2006 Quote You need to get worse for a while, then you will get better - not kidding. If you read Brian Germains Parachute and it's Pilot book there is a section that explains our learning curves. When you take in new informaition to learn new teckniques and go to apply them you will find your performance will decrease because it is something new to you and you have to take the time to relearn a different way of doing things. But what happens is people don't want to get worse before they get better - they just want to get better - this will cause you to plateu because even though you think you despritely want to get better, you won't let go of the current programed techeniques that you are using now to give you your currenty performance. Get what I'm saying ?? Don't worry we all do it. So what are you waiting for - go out there - have some sucky swoops, look like an idiot infront of the spectators, eat some dirt and before you know it you will break that plateu !! I am in the dip right now cause Brian made me do new stuff.... ut I discovered I can land swooping purely on my rears cause I was so shocked I had planed ou under them that I just flew em till the end Oops Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
