dploi 0 #26 February 21, 2006 Quotefuck that, get a GLX or GLS. canopies specifically designed to ground launch.That's exactly what the GIN is, with a lot more research behind it for footlaunching than the GLX. Though the GLX is definitely a badass fast wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #27 February 21, 2006 ok, i'm totally confused. how are people are making judgements on which canopy is better for groundlaunching even though they haven't flown both the nano or glx, or maybe even either of the 2 canopies being discussed here?Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #28 February 21, 2006 US $1400 for the whole package from SuperFly in Utah. I'm ordering mine soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #29 February 21, 2006 Quoteok, i'm totally confused. how are people are making judgements on which canopy is better for groundlaunching even though they haven't flown both the nano or glx, or maybe even either of the 2 canopies being discussed here?I',m not making judgments on which is better, I'm just saying the the Nano IS designed for footlaunching (in rebuttal to Chachi's post), and that they have researched and produced wings for footlaunching for a lot longer than Icarus/Daedalus has. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chachi 0 #30 February 21, 2006 you make a solid point. i haven't flown the other one. however, knowing how many different things you want to do while ground launching and watching that video i am sure the glx would out perform. that thing looked fast, but you need to ski launch it? as per the required gear on the website. also, it looked fast but what about it's soaring cababilities? the glx is amazing in both. there is no way that thing launches slower than the glx meaning wind or ski's. i also like a canopy that doesn't breathe. ill stick with my glx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #31 February 21, 2006 Gin has other foot launching canopies that will easily outperform a GLX, specially in soaring...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chachi 0 #32 February 22, 2006 ^ i would hope a paragliding company can bring a canopy that would out soar a GLX. find me video of this canopy showing it will out perform the glx in all areas and ill recant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamT 0 #33 February 22, 2006 Im sure one of these will show up at a ground launching comp soon, being half the price of the glx and all. Then we can stop judging from a short video. adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #34 February 22, 2006 Quote^ i would hope a paragliding company can bring a canopy that would out soar a GLX. find me video of this canopy showing it will out perform the glx in all areas and ill recant. me to... like I said before, I think it is safe to say that daedalus is a step or 3 ahead in this area. didn't say it was or is fact, I'm just assuming it is safe to say. but if proven wrong then i will take that back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #35 February 22, 2006 Quote^ i would hope a paragliding company can bring a canopy that would out soar a GLX. find me video of this canopy showing it will out perform the glx in all areas and ill recant.The GLX is definitely going to win the speed competition, but there are advantages to a wing like this -- such as fast, hard, wingovers that recover easily and really aggressive traversing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #36 February 22, 2006 why in all areas ? you were asking about soaring weren't you ? Now they come with a specific wing for a specific market, and "they get flamed" cause they're the new kids from the next block... No doubt the GLX is a great wing. The Nano seems to have been developped for SPEED RIDING, downhill with skis and stuff... safer than to just fly with powerkites (which many of us did). If you want to soar, check their "Gliders" section. and check the woopykite which is quite fun.www.woopy-fly.comscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #37 February 22, 2006 QuoteNow they come with a specific wing for a specific market, and "they get flamed" cause they're the new kids from the next block... I dont see any flaming. at least I didnt untill I saw somone say that someone was flaming someone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #38 February 22, 2006 Saw video... SUX! Canopy as spring Glide on my canopy better then this "kids paraglide". 100 km/h - is not problem on my canopy with slope as i saw on video (above 30-35 degrees).www.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frenchyflyer 0 #39 February 22, 2006 Hey stu, I'm not replying to you in particular but I had to pick a post to reply to Although I haven't flown the Gin speed-riding canopy, I have flown (speedriding) the skydiving canopy that inspired* this one (Springo 110 from Parachute de France). *: I know that piece of info from one of the few test pilots of the Gin canopy. First and foremost, I think that groundlaunching and speedriding should be considered as two different activities because, well, there are major differences I've used my GLX for speedriding and, although I love how it flies, I must confess that ski launching a non x-braced canopy as the springo110 is a lot easier: The GLX is simply too efficient and wants to fly too soon and too fast. This is a great advantage when foot launching because you have more time to analyze things and you want the canopy to launch as soon as possible; but when ski launching this makes things happen so fast that it becomes a problem: the wing flies so fast that it overtakes you and then you can fuck up your launch really fast: you really have to tame it a lot (e.g. by applying a lot of brakes before going downhill - but then you might take off too soon which is not as pleasant when ski launching as it is when foot launching). I still need to find the proper way to ski-launch my GLX from really steep launchpoints (in no wind or slight downwind conditions). In short, the GLX is definitely more efficient than the Gin in terms of speed (for a given size and wingloading), well, most of you guys can guess this by just looking at the pictures of both. I do love my GLX for speedriding, but I would need a much smaller one than my 125 in order to have as much fun as these guys are having under sub100 canopies: that's the beauty of ski launching: you can have a canopy as small as you want because you can have all the speed you need at take off and when landing. I'm heading off for some more fun speedriding in 10 days and I'm going to get some weight belt to approach the wingloading of the guys I'll be flying with. That's just because I can't afford to order a sub100 GLX canopy... To all the people out there groundlaunching and speedriding: Have fun and be safe, this is a very dangerous sport Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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