billvon 3,090 #1 February 20, 2006 GIN, a company that makes paragliders, just released a glider called the Nano. It's available in sizes from 10 to 14 square meters (roughly 100 to 150 sq ft) and is intended for "speed flying." From the ad: ------------------------------------ Speed Flying is a new winter flying sport created by paraglider pilots and skydivers looking for a new sensation and to create a link between gliding by ski and gliding through the air. NANO is a glider specifically adapted to the practice of this new sport. Simple and easy to use, NANO is available in 4 sizes: 10m2,12m2, 13m2, 14m2 . Pick your size according to weight and more importantly experience. The smaller the glider the faster you go... Speed Flying is an exhilarating experience that should be practiced with care and in a carefully chosen environment. The Gin Nano is sold complete with glider, a convertible harness/rucksack and carabineers. Discover freedom with the Nano, the first Speed Flying glider created by GIN ! ---------------- See attached pictures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #2 February 21, 2006 nice, that'll be something to look intoSlip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chachi 0 #3 February 21, 2006 fuck that, get a GLX or GLS. canopies specifically designed to ground launch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #4 February 21, 2006 i've flown the GLX, it was good.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 February 21, 2006 Not knocking the GLX or GLS, but you might want to look into the history of GL, and Gin Gliders. Gin has been pioneering ram air wings for decades.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,581 #6 February 21, 2006 Quotefuck that, get a GLX or GLS. canopies specifically designed to ground launch. Paragliding technology moves at a phenominal rate, wings introduced this time last year will be obsolete in another few months. Full size paragliders have L/D's 3 or 4 times better than modern skydiving wings. So when those guys decide to make a wing that is 'specifically designed to ground launch' ('cos thats what speed flying is) it seems a bit silly to dismiss it out of hand. Even if they did give it a silly name.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 February 21, 2006 QuoteParagliding technology moves at a phenominal rate, wings introduced this time last year will be obsolete in another few months. Full size paragliders have L/D's 3 or 4 times better than modern skydiving wings. So when those guys decide to make a wing that is 'specifically designed to ground launch' ('cos thats what speed flying is) it seems a bit silly to dismiss it out of hand. Even if they did give it a silly name.Paragliding IS ground launching. Speedriding is low altitude/high speed paragliding/ground launching. YES what Gin does is GOOOOOD, I even like them better now that Robert Graham designs for them.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #8 February 21, 2006 Quotefuck that, get a GLX or GLS. canopies specifically designed to ground launch. exactly what do you think this canopy was designed to do?? Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #9 February 21, 2006 anybody know the costs off hand?Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #10 February 21, 2006 Quoteanybody know the costs off hand? Thats a good question. Next question - Who's going to jump one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,581 #11 February 21, 2006 QuoteNext question - Who's going to jump one? Hopefully no-one, that's not what they've been designed for More info and photo's hereDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #12 February 21, 2006 QuoteNext question - Who's going to jump one? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hopefully no-one, that's not what they've been designed for Fuck that. Someone will put a slider on and have at it. I gurantee it. Thanks for the link. I watched the video and have a couplethougths. First, off, the canopy looks soft. It seems to be breathing, and wobbling alot. It might just be a shitty skydiving canopy, which in the end, would be much different that regular paraglider. Second, how long before the speed flying guys are hooking themselves in? Paragliders seem to able spin around with little or no altitude loss, and if thats what the pilots are used to, and then they fly that thing........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,581 #13 February 21, 2006 QuoteSomeone will put a slider on and have at it. I gurantee it Probably true, and I'm sure it'll work, just. I suppose we won't know who's on the right track design wise until some experienced guys fly them side by side with the Icarus/Daedalus GL offerings.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #14 February 21, 2006 I think it would be safe to say, that the daedalus line of ground launch canopies are a step or 3 ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #15 February 21, 2006 QuoteI think it would be safe to say, that the daedalus line of ground launch canopies are a step or 3 ahead we'll probably see when someone brings one of these things to GL competition.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frost 1 #16 February 21, 2006 Did anyone have any concerns about the way those canopies were oscillating and breathing? Seemed like cross bracing would be benefitial there. Also curious why whould (3 year old?) daedalus line of canopies be 3 steps ahead of an established paragliding canopy manufacturer?SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #17 February 21, 2006 QuoteDid anyone have any concerns about the way those canopies were oscillating and breathing? Seemed like cross bracing would be benefitial there. I already brought that up Also curious why whould (3 year old?) daedalus line of canopies be 3 steps ahead of an established paragliding canopy manufacturer?*** Becasue 'speed flying' is closer to swooping then paragliding, and we've been developing swooping canopies for ten years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris74 0 #18 February 21, 2006 Hi Birds, Price is 1500 euros for the full package. Blue skies Chris PS the World is full of new toys ! http://www.profly.org/english_new/index.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #19 February 21, 2006 QuoteI suppose we won't know who's on the right track design wise until some experienced guys fly them side by side with the Icarus/Daedalus GL offerings. Unfortunately the two guys who are most likely the best to be the pilots to test this canopy and give us feedback won't be unable to test it anytime soon. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frost 1 #20 February 21, 2006 i just read your thoughts... yeah, i agree. Also recall how he was turning really close to the slope? May be it just looked that way, but seems to me that there is a VERY small margin for an error there.SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #21 February 21, 2006 QuoteAlso recall how he was turning really close to the slope? May be it just looked that way, but seems to me that there is a VERY small margin for an error there. In all fairness, the slope is covered with snow. When they start footlaunching them without snow, near cliffs, and other hard stuff, the femurs will start snapping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamT 0 #22 February 21, 2006 Lots of spanwise oscillation. Certainly doesn't look as stable as a GLX or any crossbraced skydiving canopy. Lines seem sort. Probably has a hell of a roll rate, good for a tight blade course i would think. Airfoil is definitely thinker(slower but more lift?) than a crossbraced skydiving wing or a glx, or probably any high performance skydiving wing. If flown and watched the glx fly and from watching that video the glx seems more rigid with less anhedral arc. That video did have the best fotage of flying to skying/flying transitions i have ever seen. This is great though, more people thinking about it and innovating and putting it in front of peoples eyes. Exciting times for ground launchers. Cheaper better toys. Woohoo, parachutes are fun! adam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chachi 0 #23 February 21, 2006 after doing 47 launches with my glx in 3 days im telling you that you couldnt find something that launches easier and flies faster. this thing looks like a toy. it must certainly deform at higher wing loadings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #24 February 21, 2006 QuoteHi Birds, Price is 1500 euros for the full package. Blue skies Chris PS the World is full of new toys ! http://www.profly.org/english_new/index.htm www.profly.org/english_new/index.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #25 February 21, 2006 Well there is one opinion. Now maybe you'll get some experience on other wings to back it.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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