Tandem Lineovers

[AggieDave 6]

This came up in a different discussion. If you've experienced a line over on a tandem, could you please relate your experience and how you think it was packed, as well as the gear that you were jumping.

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[darkvapor 0]

I was wondering about this too, except as it relates to regular mains. I'm assuming a mistake that causes a line over on a tandem will produce the same result on a sport main right? And vice versa...

Only thing I know of, what my rigger told me, is to be careful not to over-roll the tail, cuz that can allow some of the brake lines to get in fron the of nose of the canopy. But I also assume that it will take quite a few rolls to get the brake lines there.

[JohnnyD 0]

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This came up in a different discussion. If you've experienced a line over on a tandem, could you please relate your experience and how you think it was packed, as well as the gear that you were jumping.

1 bad one on an Icarus main (I think it was an Icarus, but I may be wrong). Packed like all the rest of them - fast (it was a busy day).

[AggieDave 6]

You're rigger is right, basically a line over occurs when a line gets in front of the nose (duh, right? ), but you can do that very easily with a sport main when rolling the tail. If you roll the tail agressively, then you can move those lines from the middle of the canopy to the side. When people just toss the canopy down instead of setting it down, letting the lines spread way out, they're already on the side of the canopy instead of the middle, so when they start pushing material under the caccon to prep it for the bag, they can push lines to the front of the canopy.

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[drenaline 0]

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If you roll the tail agressively

please explain

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[AggieDave 6]

Pull the tail out, roll till you run out of tail, keep rolling. You'll roll some of the "meat" of the canopy into the tail, pulling lines around with it. It happens, I've seen people do it.

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[drenaline 0]

I usually do 10 tight rolls, how much do you think it might be to much?

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[Kris 0]

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I usually do 10 tight rolls, how much do you think it might be to much?

When you feel yourself rolling up fabric that shouldn't be there.

Kris

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[AggieDave 6]

Exactly, Kris.

Something else to think about, pull the tail out, then roll to the canopy, don't roll the canopy to the tail.

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[efs4ever 3]

I'm very pleased at the number of and intelligence behind the responses to my post about tandem mains.

I have experienced 3 line over malfunctions that resulted in a breakaway. There were 4 more that "fixed" themselves the more I let it spin.

Pro packing and rush packing have been the culprit. I pack it myself once in a while, but it's always a flat pack.


Causation is simple. Line gets to the side and gets swept in front of the nose that's face down on the carpet. This happens when the shaping of the canopy to bag width is done.

I got rid of my six grommet slider, and still had some problems. Two that cleared and one that did not.

Bill at RWS says flat packers do not have the problems.

Russell Webb

[drenaline 0]

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Bill at RWS says flat packers do not have the problems.

Is that why the reserve is flat packed?

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[Kris 0]

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Something else to think about, pull the tail out, then roll to the canopy, don't roll the canopy to the tail.

Yup, I forgot about that one. I always pull the tail up and then roll down. It helps keep the other fabric from getting rolled into the tail, it keeps the lines to the center, and it makes for a better tail-roll.

Kris

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