dharma1976 0 #1 October 9, 2005 Hey Just wondering who used dive loops to pull on their front risers or if you grab the whole riser. I have actually fallen victim to the vampire risers lately where I have been losing chunks of skin no matter how much I slow down the canopy and was wondering if there was an easier softer wayhttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #2 October 9, 2005 Dive loops and gloves, up high, I don't front riser or toggle whip it down low. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YISkyDive 0 #3 October 9, 2005 I used to not have dive loops on my rig, so I woudlnt try to use them on landing at all, and get experince on my canopy before touching Fronts. I grabbed the whole riser and it worked up high pretty well, but it was very untrust worthy to use on the deck. After putting on diveloops, I can get much better front riser performance out of my canopy, and much more consistent turns. I tacked mine down so they stick out, and made sure I can safetly use gloves with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #4 October 9, 2005 I use diveloops to initate my turns. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaGimp 0 #5 October 9, 2005 i think dive loops are the way to go.....with grabbing hte riser you can have some inconsistancties if you grab in diffrent places.....the dive loops keep your hand placment in the same spot every time."Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanopyPiloting 0 #6 October 10, 2005 I have used risers and blocks but my favorite are "ledges" which are retractable blocks. They are mounted on the frontside of the front risers and give you leverage without having to put your hands in and out of loops. It forces you to use more harness with your turn instead of "hanging" on the fronts. Plus, you never have to take your eyes away from the target or worry about pulling your hands out of the loops at the end of the dive. More on this can be found at www.canopypiloting.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMURRAY 1 #7 October 10, 2005 QuoteI have used risers and blocks but my favorite are "ledges" which are retractable blocks. They are mounted on the frontside of the front risers and give you leverage without having to put your hands in and out of loops. It forces you to use more harness with your turn instead of "hanging" on the fronts. Plus, you never have to take your eyes away from the target or worry about pulling your hands out of the loops at the end of the dive. More on this can be found at www.canopypiloting.com can someone post a picture of these? sounds good... rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #8 October 10, 2005 I use dive blocks on the fronts.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #9 October 10, 2005 Quotei think dive loops are the way to go.....with grabbing hte riser you can have some inconsistancties if you grab in diffrent places.....the dive loops keep your hand placment in the same spot every time. Agreed, i also find that it helps to pack them a different way every time. ie, lay them towards the top of the riser on one pack job and in the opposite direction on another. That way they get a little memory and stay open all the time. Makes it easier to find and grab. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #10 October 10, 2005 QuoteQuotei think dive loops are the way to go.....with grabbing hte riser you can have some inconsistancties if you grab in diffrent places.....the dive loops keep your hand placment in the same spot every time. Agreed, i also find that it helps to pack them a different way every time. ie, lay them towards the top of the riser on one pack job and in the opposite direction on another. That way they get a little memory and stay open all the time. Makes it easier to find and grab. yeah I just dont like jumping with gloves and the risers have been chewing chunks of skin and webbing out of my fingers Cheers Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 October 10, 2005 Quoteyeah I just dont like jumping with gloves and the risers have been chewing chunks of skin and webbing out of my fingers do you have webbing in your fingers ??scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #12 October 10, 2005 QuoteQuoteyeah I just dont like jumping with gloves and the risers have been chewing chunks of skin and webbing out of my fingers do you have webbing in your fingers ?? everyone does...its called webbing its at the base of the fingers near the palm... and I lost a big chunk of it last weekend in a slow carving 180 Cheers Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #13 October 10, 2005 QuoteMore on this can be found at www.canopypiloting.com I've searched the site backwards and can only find one post on "ledges". Jim, can you point us to further info please? Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanopyPiloting 0 #14 October 12, 2005 The pics of the ledges are posted under the "parachute wings & gear" section of the forum at www.canopypiloting.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #15 October 13, 2005 Direct link to the thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #16 October 13, 2005 Thanks dude! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMURRAY 1 #17 October 13, 2005 QuoteThe pics of the ledges are posted under the "parachute wings & gear" section of the forum at www.canopypiloting.com if you don't mind me asking who did these retractable ledges? Is there a certain rigger who does a good job???? rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #18 October 14, 2005 I'm not a swooper and I'm a toggle monkey on landings. However, at altitue I use dive loops...because I have them. I will say that before I had them, I never felt comfortable just pulling on the front risers, so I enjoy them.SONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites