Stiletto 135 tends to "lift of"

[Maxx 1]

Hi,

I have a problem with my Stiletto135 which I load at approx. 1.6. At the moment I am still working on 180's and to get them right there where I want them.. But during the last 20 jumps a problem appeared. (I have switched from a normal toggle-flare landing to rearriser landings or landings with no input at all (except for the last few feet of course)).

When I land with rears or with no input my canopy tends to "lift of" a little bit, which is always about 3-5 feet.. This does not happen when I land with my toggles. At first I thought it comes from too much input from the rears, but then it also happens when I give no input at all..

This really pisses me off, because I want to stay at ground level during my landing and don't want to look like an idiot which gives to much flare input.. Some people say it's because I have triple risers and some say it's because of the Stilettos recovery arc.. When I try the turn it in the air I get the same effect: I loose a lot of height first but at the end of the recovery arc I gain some good feet..

So can someone give me some good advice how I can convert this extra lift into some distance?

BTW: I start my 180 at about 350 feet, which I don't think is too low for a stiletto at my WL. I do a progressive frontriser turn (start slow and get faster) and when needed I add the other riser, too.. I always start my turn out of a deep braked flight.

I really appreciate any good input!
Feet up!
Max

[AggieDave 6]

Two things.

1. Is your canopy in trim?

2. Are you easing out of your front riser maneuver or just snapping out of it. Remember, lift is generated from speed and trim, where you are under your canopy due to a pendulum effect will change the angle at which the canopy is flying. If you're snapping out of the front riser maneuver then your body will swing forward a bit closer to the nose. That's the same thing that happens while flaring. With extra speed sometimes you'll get a bit of lift with it as well.

I had the same thing happen to me while jumping a Heatwave and then a Stiletto. I've done it before under my XF2 as well, just once or twice, though.

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[Maxx 1]

1. It was relined only 150 jumps ago.
2. I don't "snap" my turn.. I pull the front riser slowly and try to let it go up slowly, but because of the pressure that builds up it tends to go up quicker than when I pull it down. Of course I don't just let it slip through my hand..

Feet up!
Max

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all parachutes generate lift, the more speed the more lift. some canopies generate more lift than others. a stilletto will generate lift to the point where if you give it too much speed it will generate enough lift to start to gain altitude.

if your having to get in your rears, im guessing it isnt to "trim" the canopy so it gets it glide path going forward, what i bet your doing is turning then letting it plain out on its own "wich a stilletto will do" then adding rear input, if a canopy is already going forward, there really isnt any reason to get into the rears, just go to toggles once the canopy slows down some so you can keep the lift. useing rears isnt for flairing when your swooping. it is more to trim the canopy so it is going across the ground. or to sling your center of gravity forward to generate speed on a canopy that is trimed very steep. and a stilletto is not.

[Hooknswoop 19]

Make sure your steering lines are not too short. At speed, they have more drag on them and can pull down the tail. 150 jumps is plenty to cause spectra lines to shrink enough to make a difference.

Derek

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Make sure your steering lines are not too short. At speed, they have more drag on them and can pull down the tail. 150 jumps is plenty to cause spectra lines to shrink enough to make a difference.

Derek

so true!.. your control range on a stilletto is very high, you can easaly loosen your brakes if the tail is deflecting at all..