Jumpmunki 0 #26 June 15, 2005 dump in place at 5 grand next time.... then pull the lines all the way to the cascade... then grab some materiel in your teeth... then try the other side !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #27 June 15, 2005 ok so next weekend try this. pull your right front riser down and at the same time pull your left rear riser down, make sure to do it evenly and jently. and see if you can controll it! PLEASE! do this up WAY high.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #28 June 16, 2005 QuoteI think it needs to be said, that for whatever reason you've decide to keep the toggles stowed and land with rear risers, when your are comming in an low on final approach, Do not bottle out an change to toggles, unless you are the worlds best plf'er Good show Zep. I found this worth repeating in case it is overlooked. Remember what your canopy does upon releasing the breaks... not an attractive move at touchdown time. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #29 June 17, 2005 I think it's important to know how to do and feel comfortable doing. The USPA A license requirments states that you should be able to land your parachute with your rear risers. From experience I've had to do so before. Comp Cobalt 150, one brake wouldn't come unstowed. Made the lines even again and then flew and landed it in rears. Is it there, is it square, is it stearable. Depending on yoru comfort level and the problem, a broken stearing line wouldn't always mean a reserve ride. There are other ways to deal with it. If its there, and it's square, see if you can stear it safely another way, but always above your harddeck.<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obi 0 #30 June 17, 2005 QuoteUnstowed I get (brake line failure) but why with your brakes stowed? Pull altitude? I've landed with no input at all. The brakes were still unstowed and as I was opening the zips of my armwings, I couldn't grab the risers yet. It sure helped that I was flying a big 7-cell (at 0.68) and the canopy had just finished transitioning from an open wing into a flying one, so there wasn't much speed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #31 June 17, 2005 Quote The USPA A license requirments states that you should be able to land your parachute with your rear risers. Where does it say this? I don't recall seeing it on the card. (4 page card maybe?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #32 June 17, 2005 My bad, I got number 3 and 5 confused. Land in half brakes, vs perform rear riser turns and flares.<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #33 June 17, 2005 QuoteMy bad, I got number 3 and 5 confused. Land in half brakes, vs perform rear riser turns and flares. Ah. Ok, I was confused there for a sec. I'm planning on finished up my A stuff this weekend, and while I do plan on learning how to land with rears, I don't plan on doing it this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #34 June 20, 2005 i think practicing landing without use of toggles is quite useful. i have landed small cobalts and onyx's manytimes without use of toggles (unstowed), mainly in practice for swooping by on several occasions due to mals. the last time was not practice. i was jumping with a good friend who experienced a double mal: cypress fire resulting in a main/reserve entaglement with neither inflating. i spiralled down as hard as i could under an onyx 85. i was extremely upset watching what i though was my friend's death (he is ok, now). i came in super fast into an all too small clearing in the woods, i was screaming to my friend and in my state lost a toggle while in the corner. practice pays off, and i dropped the other toggle and landed on rears, crosswind between trees....dropped my gear and ran to attend my friend. there are many instances where i would choose not to chop my main and land without toggles, e.g. line over, broken steering line, etc... although not sure i would choose to land a highly loaded elliptical with stowed brakes, or one stowed brake. if i had one toggle jammed stowed, and wanted/needed to land it i would probably choose to cut the steering line first. dan <><> www.extremefly.comDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tfelber 0 #35 June 21, 2005 Quote...the canopy folding back up is not a feeling i like too much... That feeling is quite unnerving. Looking up and watching it collapse in on itself is a pretty frightening sight also! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
