Hop N Pop

[hkf 0]

Does anybody have a method of getting under canopy loosing as little altitude as possible from a hop n pop. Packing methods, body position, when to dump etc.

I'm asking this cos weather is crap in uk at the moment and we are getting mostly cloud base lifts between 2500 and 3500 ft.

Today, no sooner had I stowed slider, loosened chest strap and unstowed brakes and I was at a thousand feet (less than 10 seconds from my final turn).

I've seen a few experienced swoopers, including some of PD team when they get out on a low hop and pop they seem to go out into a track up the slip stream and dump after about 2 seconds, not sure if this is to loose less altitude or if they just like doing it.

[Hooknswoop 19]

What are you doing under canopy that takes you so long?

Derek

[hkf 0]

Typically if I get out at 2400 I may be open at 1800. If I take 18 seconds to turn off flightline on rears, collapse and stow my slider, loosen of my chest strap and unstow my brakes then I am 1200 feet.
I like to be well into my pattern by 1200 feet.

I'm basically looking for any techniques that give a bit more time under canopy

[davelepka 4]

Lossen your chest strap before you jump.

If your subterminal opening happens to be on heading, either A) turn off of floght line with your harness, or B) face off flight line before you dump.

Stow your slider faster.

Problem solved.

[hkf 0]

Good idea on the chest strap, normall when weather is good, i have it tight for FF, force of habit I guess.

This isn't overly important, but more out of interest, have seen quite a few doing the track up the sleep stream exit, and didn't really ask why at the time as wasn't doing many hop n pops, if it's worth a few hundred feet i'd do it.
Anybody tried it?

[CanuckInUSA 0]

On a lot of my sub terminal BASE jumps, I like to jump with my chest strap pretty loose for the very same reason. My canopy obviously flies better with the strap loose and it's one less thing to not have to do post opening and it gives myself more time to setup for landing. Same reasoning should apply to skydiving.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[diablopilot 2]

Ask the pilot for less cut (might not want to do that if you're jumping a King Air or other lower tail A/C), take about 2-3 seconds, DO NOT jump up of track up out the door if you ask for more speed on jump run.

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[superstu 0]

Can you say slider down . just kidding. when i do a backflip off the plan and pitch in a head down i get better openings than if i pitched head-up in the same time frame, plus i get my stuff stowed w/in a thousdand feet.

Slip Stream Air Sports
Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down

[justdumi 0]

Dude

When you pitch in a head down is there a higher chance of getting pilot chute and stuff getting caught up in your feet?

Thanks


Dumile

[jerry81 10]

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Dude

When you pitch in a head down is there a higher chance of getting pilot chute and stuff getting caught up in your feet?

I think he's talking about h&p gainers...backflip out of the plane, pull as you're coming around- it's a head low position, but you're belly to the relative wind, so it doesn't matter.
Feels good, though, and looks cool as hell.

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[superstu 0]

um heh, yea. happened to me once and so now i don't spread my legs as wide. i know it's not exactly the safest method, but it kinda works. do it at your own discretion

Slip Stream Air Sports
Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down

[blitzkrieg 0]

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i do a backflip off the plan and pitch in a head down i get better openings

i tend to do the same on most H&Ps. only once had the PC brush my foot ... early pull, slower rotation... however you want to look at it. plus it's just way more fun.

[kelpdiver 2]

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When you pitch in a head down is there a higher chance of getting pilot chute and stuff getting caught up in your feet?

Most of my short number of HnPs have been to dive out backwards, often with a forward flip. On one, thankfully a 7k for canopy work, I was impatient and didn't wait to finish the flip and threw the PC right into my ankle. Fortunate I could feel it, and was still in a head down orientation - pointing the toe freed it up into a reasonably normal deployment.

That was the first hop after the two for the A. It definitely had my attention on the next one...I opted for the more traditional stand on the step and fall back, watching the plane.

[Maxim 0]

I face the back of the plane and do a back flip. pitch in a head down if i do a slow backflip i even see the tail fly past me =). cool as hell to see your canopy deploying infront of you =)

Life is Great. Even Greater what we do with it.

[kelpdiver 2]

Sounds fun.

Can you describe how to do a backflip (intentional) on the exit? On the hops, I've always been in the smaller cessnas and the forward roll is driven in part by the short door height, so I've gotten half descent with it.

[superstu 0]

i do this from 182's all the time, however, i'm facing the tail, do a back flip, and pitch.

Slip Stream Air Sports
Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down

[crewkeith 0]

static line?????????????


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