Stock Canopies?

[garywainwright 0]

I believe the PD factory team don't use stock velocities (aparently they have an 'e' line and extra thin HMA)
Do the icarus and precision teams use stock VXs and Xaos27s?

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[GQ_jumper 4]

I'm far from being the most knowledgable person in the world when it comes to swooping so take what i say with a grain of salt. But people with far more experience than myself have said that the PD team started using special line sets when they saw that the xaos guys could do ghostriders. they tried that with their canopies the way they were and didn't have such great results, so a new custom line set was used to allow thier canopies this ability.

Again this is info being passed on from other sources, which i have seen to be credible in the past. and i'm sure there is someone out there with more direct knowledge that could shed more light on the subject.

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[skygod7777 0]

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I believe the PD factory team don't use stock velocities (aparently they have an 'e' line and extra thin HMA)
Do the icarus and precision teams use stock VXs and Xaos27s?

this is just what i've heard, i've never seen any of these canopies up close, so i can't be sure.

but, i heard the pd guy use hma cascaded so they have to replace them all the time (like ever 150 or 200 jump or something). and the E line, or jay mod some call it, a few of them use it, but that's not really anything new.......it's just for if your low you can dig a bit more with rears.........what it is, is a line that goes from your rear risers to the cascades on your brake lines with a little slack, so say (just a number here) after 2" of pulling your rears down, it also pullsed the brake lines down a bit too.


and as far as the icarus teams, i heard they use hma lines also...........xaos guys, there canopies already have hma lines, but are non cascaded.

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[Spizzzarko 0]

I have seen some velocity's out there with HMA. Icarus has been experementing with it, but they are not selling it.

[AggieDave 6]

Well, I would hope the top fliers in the world are flying modified canopies, stuff not released to the public yet. How else can they test the latest and greatest fully? So they can pass on the performance to the average swooper.
I would be fully dissappointed in a company that didn't give their pros the cutting edge to play with.

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[skygod7777 0]

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Well, I would hope the top fliers in the world are flying modified canopies, stuff not released to the public yet. How else can they test the latest and greatest fully? So they can pass on the performance to the average swooper.

I would be fully dissappointed in a company that didn't give their pros the cutting edge to play with.

i agree, in the fact that they should be able to play with it, but if a company comes out iwth a competion line set (if a company does let say), i think it should be available to the public, i mean it does give the sponsered guys an advantage that isn't really available to us.


i'm not bitching too much, it just makes me want to practice more and fly better so maybe i can beat them one day with my stock canopy
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[AggieDave 6]

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i mean it does give the sponsered guys an advantage that isn't really available to us.

I'm not too worried about that, I'm not even close to the skill level needed to justify something like that, not even remotely close.

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[skygod7777 0]

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I'm not too worried about that, I'm not even close to the skill level needed to justify something like that, not even remotely close.

i wouldn't say that i am either, but at some point i hope to be in the next couple years, and it would be nice to be able to get these options that sponsered guys can get that the public can't.......oh well, i can only hope to get sponsered one day


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[skynole 0]

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and the E line, or jay mod some call it, a few of them use it, but that's not really anything new.......it's just for if your low you can dig a bit more with rears

I've seen this posted several times on here so I want to dispell this myth. The intention of the E/Jay-mod is NOT so you can dig out better with rears if you are in the corner. The thinking behind it is to create a more efficient wing while pulling down on the rears. I'm not an aerodynamics engineer, but I'll try to explain it the best I can...

When you pull on your rears, you are pulling down the rear of the canopy (where the C and D lines are attached) below the tail (where the brake lines are attached). This distorts the airflow over and under the canopy. By adding a line (very precise in length) running from your rears to the cascade point in your brake line, when you pull down on the rears, it pulls down the tail to the same point as the rear of canopy. The thinking is that this will produce a smoother airfoil, which will in turn produce a more efficient wing.

My wording might not be 100% correct, but the point being that the thinking behind mod is to create a more efficient wing, NOT to be able to dig out of the corner better with rears. Now, it might be a by-product that you are able to dig out a bit better with rears...I have no idea, I've never jumped the mod....but that was not thinking behind adding the mod.

[skygod7777 0]

ok, this is what tj told me it was for a couple years ago, but time after time i have read on here that it is for if you just can't give up and go to toggle to dig out a bit, that this would save your ass from a high speed stall (to a point anyway).

which, honestly, i see it as doing a little of both.


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