What dos (loaded at 1:1) Means?

[RSG 0]

Hello all ...

What dos this means:

Sabre 170, loaded at 1:25

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dos this maters with the whight?
And i am about 185 lb so what should i conceder as a size , I hold about 200 jumps all of them on a PD 190.

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[TB99 0]

That person is talking about wing loading. You are probably 205lbs out the door (assuming 185 for your weight and 20 for your rig). On a PD190, your wing loading is 1.08 (205 divided by 190). The more advanced you get with canopy control, the more you can start loading up under canopy (meaning, getting smaller canopies and loading it more: example - you'd be loading a 135 1.52, or a 96 sq ft canopy would be loaded 2.14, which gets really advanced! Hope you understand what I'm sayin.

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[174fps 1]

The ratio is weight with gear on (weight out door) to square feet of canopy.
If you weigh 185 + 10 for clothes, helmet + 20lbs for gear =215lbs
215/190 =1.13:1
215/170 =1.26:1

[TB99 0]

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10 for clothes

Wow, lol ... who makes your clothes

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[rushmc 23]

The main brands I wear are made by Omar the Tent Maker and Omaha Tent and Awning.

I go out the door at about 280!

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[174fps 1]

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who makes your clothes

Terrie.. She's going to measure me for ff pants
tonight.
OK if you jump in Florida in shorts and sandals they wont
weigh 10 lbs.
But if you wear ,shoes , and a set of clothes under your
jump suit , plus alti, gloves etc you might be surprised how much that changes the wing load. Also weights if he were to wear them.
Last summer I put on 12 lbs lead to fall with some
hefty anvils.
The DZ had a scale I thought it might be interesting to weigh myself with gear.
209lbs... I weigh 169

Andrew

[TB99 0]

Well, weights is a different story, but I weighed myself with and without gear and came up with on the dot 20 pounds ... I usually only account for 3 pounds for clothes, lol ... guess it's because it is just shorts and a tee:) I haven't weighed myself with my FF suit, but I figure that's about the same anyways as I jump in only boxers and a T underneath.
Ahhh, how I love Florida

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[PhreeZone 20]

>And i am about 185 lb so what should i conceder as a size?

Look for a ZP in a 190. Stay far away from the ellipticals and look at a Sabre or the like.

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[cobaltdan 0]

"Stay far away from the ellipticals and look at a Sabre or the like. "


this should read "stay away from canopies at wing loadings outside of your skill level".

there are many elliptical canopies specifically designed for beginners now. the connotation of "elliptical" being synonymous with only twitchy high experience canopies is very out of date with modern technology.

the only thing you can infer from only knowing a design is elliptical is simply that it is more efficient. weather a canopy is a student canopy or a high performance pocket rocket is a sum of many design variables. Any canopy that is does not use the exact same rib for every section is elliptical. Terms like ‘tapered’ or ‘semi elliptical’ are used by some manufacturers in attempt to avoid using the previously bad ‘elliptical’ word in conjunction with canopy designs that are focused towards beginners and intermediates. know that many ‘tapered’ canopies are far more elliptical than the most extreme pocket rockets. again the "extremeness" of a canopy is the sum of many design variables involved beyond just the planform.

keep an open mind when it comes to old misconceptions, and listen to the manufacturers of the equipment.

some common 9 cell canopies to be considered at 200 jumps: cobalt, safire, sabre2, hornet, etc.

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[Michele 1]

Hi, RSG...

Wing loading is simply the ratio of weight suspended under canopy to the square foot measurement of canopy over the weight.

If you weigh 185 lbs, and your gear weighs 20 lbs, you have a weight load under canopy of 205. If you have a canopy which has 205 square feet, you will then have a wing loading (weight suspended:canopy sq. feet) of 1:1.

If you have a suspended weight load which is higher than then square feet of canopy, then you have a "higher" wing loading. A good example of that would be if you had a suspended weight of 205, but flew a canopy of 170. That ratio would be considered a "higher" wing loading.

Students learn on generally very low wing loading because they have a very large canopy. If they weigh 205, they may fly a 280 sq. ft. canopy. And newer jumpers gradually get smaller canopies as they learn to safely navigate the canopy to the ground and how it handles in the air. It takes a long time and a lot of jumping to be good enough to handle a wingloading of 1.5+:1...at least in my opinion.

I cannot talk about the differences between ellipicals and semi-ellipticals, because while there is a difference, I don't understand it very well.

And that is the limit of my knowledge about weight loading. I am a newer jumper, so I don't know much. Take it for what it's worth.

Ciels-
Michele

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While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[RSG 0]

Now it's clear

thanks folks you are the best

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