Jumpmunki 0 #1 January 14, 2004 simple poll dudes and dudetts! you are jumping a sabre 150 loading 1.2 would you downsize/change to a stilletto or other eliptical 150 loading 1.2 or downsize to a sabre 135 loading ? the goal is distance don't wish to sound like a C**t but i'm not really interested in the don't downsize your not ready for it and all that rubbish, all i want to know is what option you would personally choose and if you wish Why thanks, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 January 14, 2004 Quote the goal is distance Gliding (in-flight) or swooping (during landing)?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #3 January 14, 2004 I think at this stage you are talking about given jump numbers and what you are looking for, I would go with the downsize. If you feel totally confident with your Sabre loaded at 1.2 and assuming you have flown it to it's limits, as you stated, then I think staying with the Sabre and loading a little heavier would be a better learning tool to getting more proficient with canopy flight. I would also recommend a Sabre2. They tweaked the original Sabre and made it a much better canopy all around. I would put atleast a couple hundred more jumps on a non-elliptical and learn the characteristics of a heavier loaded wing before I went to a different performance class canopy. Just my thoughts. Hope it helps. I also think the best thing is always to talk to an experienced canopy pilot who has seen you jump to get their input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 January 14, 2004 A sabre or a Sabre2? You know, I'd say take a look at the Sabre2. You might demo it and even find that you can handle a downsize (although you need to be very careful since you'll be slightly changing plane form). Guessing that you'd load a Sabre2 135 at about 1.4 I think that you'll find that it will take you another 200-400 jumps (atleast) to get the full potential out of that canopy. They can land easily and docily (is that a word?), but you can swoop the piss out of them! I took a Sabre2 190 loaded at 1.4 on a swoopy swoop one morning, it was very nice. Went about 250ft with it.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #5 January 14, 2004 Quotedon't wish to sound like a C**t but i'm not really interested in the don't downsize your not ready for it and all that rubbish, all i want to know is what option you would personally choose and if you wish Why How many jumps do you have on the 150 and are you getting the most out of it yet? Serious questions! If you really feel you are ready to downsize, then demo both types and see what you feel most comfortable with. Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #6 January 14, 2004 At your wingloading and skill level, I would go down size only. but I would do it as cheaply as possible (used). Take your time get used to the canopy and the added speed. As you feel confident go borrow or demo the same size stilleto or crossfire. think about how you feel, are you comfortable. Once you get the bug buy a used stilleto or crossfire that is same size and sell the used sabre. Now really work on getting to know the ins and outs of the canopy. good luck ramon"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpinDoctor 0 #7 January 14, 2004 I had an ZP.EXE 155 and after 250 jumps on it (when I had about 440 in total) I changed to a Hurricane 150. Same manufacturer - same size - same material - but elliptical. I found the turns slightly faster - but everything else seemed pretty much the same. Recovered quickly from riser turns and landed much the same as the EXE. I recently did some canopy coaching too before I take delivery of a new Crossfire II - 119. I now have about 75 jumps on the Hurricane (515 total) and thought I was ready for the Crossfire. I have been doing front riser approaches 90's 180's - but find that I am consistently a little too high when the canopy planes out. Then, on the last jump I did, the turn was a little lower that I am used to and a slight downwinder too. Scared the living be-jeezus out of me! (Actually - I think it was a spot on swoop - but the speed and extra lift took me very much by surprise) It shows that I have not yet gotten everything out of this canopy... consistently! I am a very conservative pilot and reasonably experienced jumper, and I know that everyone learns at different rates and takes their own (hopefully) calculated risks... So not wanting to be a c**t either - stick with the EXE155 until you have wrung the bollocks out of it... With the greatest of respect - there is no way that this can be the case currently - especially with the number of jumps you have and the unpredictable weather in the UK and especially the North East. Just my thoughts Cheers EDIT TO ADD: p.s. Why have you changed your moniker from WayneRATS?----------------------- Connextion: British 8 Way Team www.bodyflight.co.uk ----------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #8 January 14, 2004 Depeding on the case you can do both safely.Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #9 January 14, 2004 It would be simple if the poll held true all across the board. In this sport, you need to be able to subjectively view your skill set to answer your question. Go to a canopy course and get looked at by people with the knowledge to answer your question as most of us have never seen your skillset. Good luck. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
