pyke 0 #1 July 18, 2003 Okay - I have seen quite a few people swooping using this method of "flaring" since I started seeing really good swoopers - well.....swoop, but I'm a little confused by how you do it.... How do you go from a front riser approach....to hangin' on your back risers for a flare/surf?? Don't you need to stay on your front risers for the maximum effect of your swoop?? Then, don't you need your toggles to flare so you can slow down to a reasonable running speed?? Am I missing something in the middle?? Colour me confused....cause it seems like all this riser 'jockeying' is a recipe for losing concentration on the landing and coming in hard (possibly fatally!)!! (and no fair poking fun at the retarded question!!) [wait - what am I saying...of course it's fair!!] Kahurangi e Mahearangi, Kiwi, RB #926, AFF-I, FAA Snr. Rigger, RN/BSN/Paramedic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #2 July 18, 2003 Most people who are flaring with rear risers are jumping a high performance (mostly cross-braced) main that will stay in a dive after the front riser hook, until they input either rear risers or toggles. These canopies have a long recovery to almost no recovery arc. Once the canopy is diving, it will stay in the dive and you won't have to hold the front riser all the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #3 July 18, 2003 I've only played with rear risers a bit, and flying a Sabre 120, I don't really even need to (it does give an extra 20 or so feet for me), but I've also seen and learned from the seasoned pros that get on the rear risers all the time. I think different people do it a bit differently under different canopies, but here's my take. Basically, after you've done your front riser turn and are starting to plane out, smoothly let off the fron risers and smoothly spread/pull the rear risers, like you're getting back to the DZ from a long spot. This flattens your glide (aka, keeps you aloft longer by preventing you from descending) without losing speed or flare. Your toggles must always be in your hands at all times, so the flare is just a smooth release of the risers to your standard flare. The key is smoothness. Hitting the rear risers too fast or hard might pop you up, and releasing them too quickly can give you a little drop. Smooth. Smooth. Smooth."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyke 0 #4 July 18, 2003 Thanks to both of you.....that seems to make more sense to me. Really appreciate it! Kahurangi e Mahearangi, Kiwi, RB #926, AFF-I, FAA Snr. Rigger, RN/BSN/Paramedic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
