freeflyguy 0 #1 February 2, 2003 Andy got a XAOS 21 21sf. I don't know why they really built it. Just to play with I guess. But is full on reinforced, just small scale. He threw it out of the plane a couple times today, with about 25 pounds on it. It flew nice. Tonight, he is building a remote control box for the toggles. Should launch tomorrow. Next, well, you know...once the overcast goes away, and he can get full alttitude. It should be interesting. Going to cutaway of course. I'll tell yah what happens. ---------------------------- bzzzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #2 February 2, 2003 hmmmm, what time is he going to play? I may leave Crystal a bit early... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #3 February 2, 2003 ya i saw this at PIA, it looked kinda cool. kinda like a little toy kite or something. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyguy 0 #4 February 3, 2003 Launch one. Luke jumped out with it in a back pack on his front, from somewhat a lower altitude than is reccomended. Anyway. The plan was to static line Xaos 21 dude from about 500 feet. Luke's landing was the most exciting part, tried to swoop the top of a pine tree, and brought some of it down with him. uh? He is a bit off sometimes. But always a good show. Anyway...Remote xaos dude opened with one line twist, then promptly spiral stalled into the ground. The brakes where set too tight. Second try, after one stripped servo was replaced, Luke got out with a bit more altitude. Had time to static line deploy him from a Classic in a good position. Andy got one turn out of it. Flew great, then went straight. Got stuck in a Pine tree, about 50 feet up. Tim Gramley volunteered to climb the tree to get him down. Skechy too. But he was returned safely, with two stripped toggle servo's Basically, it needs stronger servos, or some system so it doesn't thrash them. Anyway, Was cool. I think the real show will be when Andy can get full altitude. I am sure that will be a cluster too, but what the hell, birdmen do it, might as well try to fly a 21. I'll tell ya what happens on that one. ---------------------------- bzzzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #5 February 3, 2003 pictures?!?!?!!I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #6 February 4, 2003 I think andy said it was loaded at slightly under 1.3 and that second flight was cool, nice openning and flew faster than i expected, but the little model airplane servos dont seem to be able to pull hard enough more than once...i'll bug the UAV guys about a local source for reasonably strong parts when i see them this week____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #7 February 4, 2003 Does the little radio controled guy have enough experiance to fly this canopy???? Quote Andy got one turn out of it. Flew great, then went straight. Got stuck in a Pine tree, about 50 feet up. Tim Gramley volunteered to climb the tree to get him down. Skechy too. But he was returned safely, with two stripped toggle servo's Doesn't look like it."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyguy 0 #8 February 4, 2003 QuoteDoes the little radio controled guy have enough experiance to fly this canopy???? We were joking about making 'him' join USPA before he jumped. Still, that is why they deployed him at 500 feet, so he would have less opportunity to cause damage. It is cool video, the first one esp. It looked like a real skydiver, because the canopy is to scale. Would have been a scary thing to watch a person do what he did. They were also thinking about hooking him into the ground in classic femure, head trauma style, to show what not to do. Such possibilities when you have a willing crash test dummy. Money is no object, they'll get him figured out yet. ---------------------------- bzzzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,095 #9 February 4, 2003 >but the little model airplane servos dont seem to be able to pull > hard enough more than once . . . Either use bigger servos (1/4 scale servos should work) or use sail winch servos. They're used to control the sheets on RC sailboats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KellyF 16 #10 February 6, 2003 Well, no more R/C jumper- Andy just jumped it at around 5:00 today. It was ballistically fast and VERY sensitive to toggle input. It landed a wee bit faster than his 88- he slid in on his feet for about 150 yards before breaking out into a full-on Carl Lewis type sprint! It took an honest 200 yards to get this thing shut down once Andy was on the ground! It's a good thing the grass was wet, so his shoes didn't heat up too much and suddenly gain traction. Oh yeah, I made up the part about him landing it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #11 February 6, 2003 Quote Well, no more R/C jumper- Andy just jumped it at around 5:00 today. It was ballistically fast and VERY sensitive to toggle input. It landed a wee bit faster than his 88- he slid in on his feet for about 150 yards before breaking out into a full-on Carl Lewis type sprint! It took an honest 200 yards to get this thing shut down once Andy was on the ground! It's a good thing the grass was wet, so his shoes didn't heat up too much and suddenly gain traction. Oh yeah, I made up the part about him landing it damn, i got all excited, i though he landed it, then ya had to say he didn't. but he really did jump it though right. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KellyF 16 #12 February 6, 2003 Yeah, he really did jump it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #13 February 6, 2003 Quote Yeah, he really did jump it so, did he want to try an land it though. my buddy eddie spent the summer out in seattle and snowhomish(sp??), washington but some people there said they knew andy, and he was kinda of a crazy bastard like they said that he did a mr.bill with someone under like a 69, or something, and then wanted to land it. and other things. but they also said that he was a kick ass skydiver. and after seeing him at lake whales last week, i can agree with that. but is this little story true, or do you know??? and i assume you are the kelly farington that was at rantoul, and packed a couple of times at the packing mat behing martini shot films. is so, i was one of the packerslater Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KellyF 16 #14 February 6, 2003 Yep, that was me. Did I get some stickers from you? I don't know about the Mr. Bill and 69, but he and I did one under a Velocity 79 once......... I tried to upload a picture of him under the 21 , but it was 90K VSE on Facebook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #15 February 6, 2003 Quote Yep, that was me. Did I get some stickers from you? um, i don't know. you gave me a infinity sticker, but i don't remember for sure. i wouldn't know what kind of stickers i would of givin ya though if i did.oh well. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyguy 0 #16 February 7, 2003 I'll give you some of Andy's flying impressions. for the hell of it. Not that he feels it is a viable, landable canopy, he is just playing around. Anyway, don't try this at home. But... He aint dumb. I am sure he had a couple hook knives strapped on. He also had the 21, a reserve, AND a Tursh, (round front mount reserve). He deployed quickly off the step at 10k, no slider. Said it was a nice opening. Super twitchy, of course. He did a couple 720's, it would vibrate, from the speed whipping through the lines and bag. Pro track seemed to think his speed was about 68 in full glide. They will download it to the software, and see what that says. He could hang in brakes, and Luke, on a 108 could spiral below him. Luke seemed to think that it was actually plaining out. hard to say though. They are going to try it with smoke later, maybe tomorrow, to see. It pretty much flew like a canopy. Chopped it , went to the reserve, and all was well. ---------------------------- bzzzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #17 February 7, 2003 did he fly it today?? if the skies do the same thing manyanna I'll head out to play after lunch...i really want to see the vid..is he through with playing with the RC box? one of the UAV engineers i work with is supposed to hook me up with some high tension servos from his RC aircraft (not govt issue ) I dont know if i'll see him friday or not though.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyguy 0 #18 February 7, 2003 I talked to him today, said he wanted to jump it with smoke tomorrow. That might get old though. Every time he jumps it, it is a reserve repack. I think he might still play with the rc box though. it would be pretty cool. If he had the good parts, yah, he would prob build it. I will be out there tomorrow. Make it out if you can. Beautiful day today, hope tomorrow is the same. j ---------------------------- bzzzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #19 February 7, 2003 QuotePro track seemed to think his speed was about 68 in full glide. They will download it to the software, and see what that says. I'd love a copy of that data to put up on www.jumptrack.com How about taking up a GPS such as the Garmin eTrex Vista too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #20 February 7, 2003 I wanna see the video of this RC guy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
