Zennie 0 #1 June 2, 2002 Because I was at a DZ that I'm not at super-frequently, I was finding my swoop setups a little more difficult. So a couple of times, I was a little higher than I wanted to be at my swoop point so I wound up doing sort of a 2-stage 90/90 turn instead of a 180. What surprised me was that I was able to generate wicked speed both times I tried it. And it was a pretty non-radical, controlled approach.What I'm still trying to figure out is if this was just a coincidence or that in fact doing a two-stage "swoop" might be an effective method for generating a lot of forward speed. Thoughts?"Zero Tolerance: the politically correct term for zero thought, zero common sense." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 June 2, 2002 90/90 sounds a bit like a long 180 carve..... If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1freak 0 #3 June 3, 2002 Dude, multiple turn swoops are da-bomb. not only will you get just as much if not more speed, you are also giving your self more outs if there are problems."Listen dude; if you’re into playin it close that’s cool, but we're talkin major malfunction here" T Sparks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prost 0 #4 June 3, 2002 What is happening is that you are dialing in the 90 better than you were your 180. Being efficient is the most important thing in swooping. William Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #5 June 3, 2002 actually if you see me now. I do a gradual 90 building speed watching the ground, and the traffic and then make adjustments for the last 90 which is my steep carving dive.And I may put more opposite riser if I am a little high and get a little off target, to put me back on track and maintain dive.ramonP.S. If you watched Eric Butts this weekend (bad example as he was doing a very advanced maneuver) He would carve hard one way then change directions and carve the other way to final. (like 360, 360) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #6 June 3, 2002 One other thing I learned from one of the AFF instructors. Because I fly a Stilletto it's pretty easy to end up turning too high due to traffic or whatever. You can keep the canopy diving by just sashaying back and forth with the front risers. You can do this without weaving all over the landing are because it doesn't take up much room. Just use a few degrees in either direction to keep the canopy out of the recovery arc. Then let up when you get to the right altitude and swoop like hell!!! "Here I come to save the BOOBIES!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #7 June 3, 2002 Many of my set-ups look like two stages... I was watching videos of my runs in the PPPB intermediate event last week and someone commented "you only did a 90?". In fact it was the end of a long carving 270... the last 90 was just more aggressive... I have had some fairly nice landings doing 270's that are 180 riser carve and a 90 harness turn at the end... lots of speed with a little kick at the end (plus control through the whole turn... can bail out any time)... this can be very effective.PeaceJoshhttp://www.aerialfusion.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites