chopchop 0 #1 September 23, 2002 I'm not sure where to put this so I'll put it here, and gear and rigging and safety. Everyone should check their gear for this problem. No shit, there I was.... Sunday afternoon, doing a FF 3-way with outside video for my 400th. Exit in a nice but spinning flower, so we break it and have a tight little head down campfire for a while culminating in my 1st head down dock with Alex Allen. Transition to a sit and Alex and Go start carving around me. I start spinning facing Go. Keith (outside video) is carving the other direction. The jump was perfect with great video from all 4 cameras. I was sooooo happy. Break off is uneventful except for all the love and joy in the air. I deploy and the opening is so hard it shuts off my camera and I reach up for my risers only to get my fingers cut to shit by lines. The lines on my Spectre have broken in the same place as they did on my Triathlon 3 months ago. Coincidence? I think not. Only more lines this time, center 3 A-B lines and my left brake line. Last time it was the right side. Anyway, gotta chop it. Alex videos the cutaway and follows the parts down. Even recovers the toggle I dropped. I run out the downwind landing on my reserve. 400th jumps rarely get more exciting than that! So, Jack takes me to the Loft with my dripping bloody fingers and Larry (the rigger) and I start to try to figure out what happened. There are a few contributing factors to lines not lasting over 150 jumps in that container. The reserve container is sewn about 3/4" inside of the inside edge leaving a serious corner for linesto snag when the reserve is packed tight. What is positioning those lines there is that my risers (the ones I got after my loss in Quincy last year) stop 4-5 inches above the bottom of the reserve container - this leaves lines going down the side 4-5 inches and then turning in around the corners that can trap them. As we inspected the lines, it appears that on deployment, they catch a little resulting in wear that is kind of melting the lines. This problemhas now cost me $500 in line sets, 2 pretty torn up fingers, $140 in repack, PD pull test, cleaning blood off reserve, chaffing strip repair and a new reserve ripcord bent up by my RSL, not to mention 2 close calls . Totaling over $600 and another bottle of Jack Daniels for Keith Wyatt. chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #2 September 23, 2002 What kind of container? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #3 September 23, 2002 Javeline J-5 mfg 2001 - not an Oddysey chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #4 September 23, 2002 Glad you got through it with minimal blood loss So, how are you going to fix the problem? Longer risers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #5 September 23, 2002 It sounds like you aren't leaving enough excess line in the bottom of the main pack tray (12-18 inches). My risers do not reach all the way to the main pack tray and I've never experienced lines snagging on the reserve container. It's something to check anyway. What container is it? Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #6 September 23, 2002 QuoteJaveline J-5 mfg 2001 - not an Oddysey I have J-4, no problems like you've experienced. Can you post pics? Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #7 September 23, 2002 I'll try to take some pics this week and post them of the area. The shorter risers contributed to the problem and I could probably leave more line out but the corners are extreme compared to all the other Javelins I went running around looking at. Like I said, it is about 3/4 of an inch. Longer risers probably would fix the problem but I am going to try to get Sunpath to bartack the corners down so the lines can't get up in there any more. Larry was going to do it but can't because that is not an allowed rigger mod. chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #8 September 23, 2002 I'm not sure if I understood correctly, but if I did: The PdF Atom Legend has a simple solution to prevent main lines from snagging on the reserve container corners. I'm not sure it would be practical to retrofit something like this but here's food for thought in the attachment. Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alan 1 #9 September 25, 2002 QuoteSo, how are you going to fix the problem? Longer risers? A simpler fix would be to simply follow the manufacturers packing instructions, specifically step 10 on page 10 of a recent Sunpath/Javelin owner's manual.alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
