PhreeZone 20 #1 August 29, 2002 Ok... question. I've been told by several people its impossible to pack a line over and its just body position that causes this Mal. I disagee and think its 100% packing... anyone want to confim or deny it for me?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 August 29, 2002 I don't see how a properly packed parachute could become a line-over simply by poor body position. I could understand it if there was a gross error in body position, such as a tumbling deployment. I would think that 99 percent of the time a line-over would pretty much have to be a packing issue.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #3 August 29, 2002 QuoteOk... question. I've been told by several people its impossible to pack a line over and its just body position that causes this Mal. I disagee and think its 100% packing... anyone want to confim or deny it for me? I'll confrim that it is a packing error. Not hard to do. I packed an intentional line-over malfunction for the hook knife/line-over debate and it wasn't hard. If the canopy was packed correctly, it would be very difficult to cause a line-over w/ body position. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmcvey 0 #4 August 29, 2002 Ok so just out of interest in your opinions what specific part of a poor packing technique can give a lineover. I understand how poor/loose linestows can cause one but what part of the stood up/over the shoulder stage can cause a lineover? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 August 29, 2002 Easy. You're clearing your steering lines and you hook a part of an end stabilizer in one or you go to burrito wrap the canopy and a line gets loose and wraps itself over one. It's important to keep the lines in the middle of the pack job. If you push the nose in, you might also be pushing the lines toward the back where they're much more likely to cause a problem. If this doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll try to explain it better.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #6 August 29, 2002 I assumed as much... they were arguing for the video Breakaway they could'nt pack one and had to sew it in place and therefore all line overs were body position and not packing... (Flawed logic I know)Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #7 August 29, 2002 QuoteIf this doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll try to explain it better. Maybe you could SHOW me 8 or 9 times this Saturday? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christoofar 0 #8 August 29, 2002 QuoteOk... question. I've been told by several people its impossible to pack a line over and its just body position that causes this Mal. I disagee and think its 100% packing... anyone want to confim or deny it for me? You can verify with a rigger; you can get line over on a PRO pack if you don't watch your D lines when you pick up the tail. I know of one cutaway from this. I'm sure poor body position + line dump probably makes a line over seem more ripe to happen... but the line dump is a packing prob, too. ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #9 August 29, 2002 QuoteOk so just out of interest in your opinions what specific part of a poor packing technique can give a lineover. Allowing the steering lines to come around in front of the nose, so that on inflation, the nose goes though a steering line creating the line-over. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #10 August 29, 2002 Line overs are almost always the steering line. I packed one very easily for an intentional cutaway. I PRO packed a PD-170, layed the canopy down, and pulled a steering line around to the nose and pulled 3 nose cells through the steering line. The result was a "perfect" line-over. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
christoofar 0 #8 August 29, 2002 QuoteOk... question. I've been told by several people its impossible to pack a line over and its just body position that causes this Mal. I disagee and think its 100% packing... anyone want to confim or deny it for me? You can verify with a rigger; you can get line over on a PRO pack if you don't watch your D lines when you pick up the tail. I know of one cutaway from this. I'm sure poor body position + line dump probably makes a line over seem more ripe to happen... but the line dump is a packing prob, too. ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #9 August 29, 2002 QuoteOk so just out of interest in your opinions what specific part of a poor packing technique can give a lineover. Allowing the steering lines to come around in front of the nose, so that on inflation, the nose goes though a steering line creating the line-over. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #10 August 29, 2002 Line overs are almost always the steering line. I packed one very easily for an intentional cutaway. I PRO packed a PD-170, layed the canopy down, and pulled a steering line around to the nose and pulled 3 nose cells through the steering line. The result was a "perfect" line-over. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites